Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
His career high in points is under 20, lets just be serious here. He's not at all an offensive player. He's a defensive defenceman. A good one and he has value but lets be serious, he's probably best suited as a #4 guy.
Murphy has some offensive ability. He’s gotten better every year he’s been in the league and is (in my opinion) getting better offensively with more minutes.
Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Sure. Their problem is they have an aging core that is either declining (Crawford, Keith, Seabrook) or is on the wrong side of 30 and will start showing their age sooner rather than later (Kane and Toews). They aren't good enough to win, and should start considering a rebuild. And if they are, why keep anything that isn't under 25 and has a lot of upside?
Eitherway I am finished with this conversation. You guys want the moon for everything you have. I imagine you still think there is some credibility to your thoughts that Saad is worth Nylander. As I said before, that wasn't going to age well. It clearly didn't.
I always said that Murphy plus Saad makes a lot of sense for the leafs, and I don’t disagree with that now.
I will go ahead and reiterate that we do not want to trade Murphy, and so it makes sense that we want substance for our player who we would clearly not like to move on from.
If you want us to agree to trade Murphy you have to do better than that.