The only reason he wouldn’t receive a warm welcome is because people made him out to be the scapegoat throughout his tenure. He’s no different than Murray and Dom Simon in that regard.

Yes, there is.

Yeah I agree. But the biggest scapegoat made by Pens fans was Conor Sheary.

Thanks for the clarification

JJ doesn't pass the eye test because every time Letang coughs the puck up and lets the other team score they put the camera on JJ as if it's his fault.

Honestly, his play this year has been solid. I don't know who could complain about it. Especially after last year where they left him out to dry on his off side.
Just hush up and cut the guy some slack. He get's it enough from the crooked ass media who wouldn't dare put that camera on Letang because it doesn't fit the narrative.

I'm not saying I keep JJ on this team long term. I don't. He does have a hard time clearing the zone. But he has played well in his own end if you think he makes mistakes with the puck, lets sit down and have a real long conversation about Letang back there.
One is quick to jump on Jack and his whooping 14 give aways this year. But not say a word about Letang and his 53!!!!!

JJ is the least of the problems back there. To be honest, it's getting to the point that I would rather move Letang than JJ.

This is 100% fact...wasn’t a bad player at all and lit it up with crosby that one year. I still believe the only reason people hated him in the end was because he went into a role similar to what Simon plays now which is the all possession little to no scoring type of game and people are unwilling to accept that style because they want the instant gratification of a goal.

Thanks for the clarification

Based off that new information all 3 should be eliminated then?

You obviously have no clue about anything hockey related if you are saying Johnson has been having a below average year. He has been one of the most consistent defenseman on the team. Good plus minus rating. His corsi rating vs his zone starts is great. He passes the eye test as well. He has been the teams top penalty killer. He has been physical. He is carrying the puck out of the zone well. Chipping in in the offensive zone. Management obviously thinks very highly of his leadership and mentoring abilities for the younger dmen.

Maatta is not going to be bought out. A 25 year old, 2 time Stanley cup winner defenseman that has had the success that maatta has does not get bought out. He might get traded, but definitely not bought out.

Below is my exact quote from this thread. Please tell me where I said anything close to what you are claiming? Maybe you messaged the wrong person? Maybe it’s hard to keep track with multi burners. Idk just stop quoting me. Your points you made earlier I agreed you nothing else to talk about.


“Yeah of course but he’s on the team and he’s also Crosby best friend. You already have hiM signed long term might as well make the best of it. He gets overly critique some just some unjust. Either way he’s been pretty impressive this year. He’s done beyond what I expected him to do”

JJ doesn't pass the eye test because every time Letang coughs the puck up and lets the other team score they put the camera on JJ as if it's his fault.

Honestly, his play this year has been solid. I don't know who could complain about it. Especially after last year where they left him out to dry on his off side.
Just hush up and cut the guy some slack. He get's it enough from the crooked ass media who wouldn't dare put that camera on Letang because it doesn't fit the narrative.

I'm not saying I keep JJ on this team long term. I don't. He does have a hard time clearing the zone. But he has played well in his own end if you think he makes mistakes with the puck, lets sit down and have a real long conversation about Letang back there.
One is quick to jump on Jack and his whooping 14 give aways this year. But not say a word about Letang and his 53!!!!!

JJ is the least of the problems back there. To be honest, it's getting to the point that I would rather move Letang than JJ.

What? No apology?

None needed as it’s probably a common mistake. I’m not a guru and you aren’t either even though you pretend to be whenever someone doesn’t agree with your sometimes god awful point of view.

Not common at all. You're just a jerk.

It's almost like Letang's results dipped after he was paired with Johnson.

His play hasn't been solid at all, it's been average. Nobody puts the camera on Letang because his results are routinely very good to borderline elite.

It's almost like Letang has more turnovers since he's the main puck-moving defenseman on the team, and it's almost like all offensive defensemen will have more turnovers.

If you'd rather move Letang than Johnson, I guess you'd be open to trading Crosby too since the team is playing well without him. F*cking r*tard

You’ve been the one coming at me here...you didn’t have to comment at all. But you do it anyway because you’re a lifeless troll. You are ill informed and actually believe that +/- is the same thing as analytics. Idk how anyone can be this mind numbingly stupid but apparently you are.

Was it the FL game or the VGK game where he just handed the puck over to the other team right in front of the net. But hey, really lets blame that on johnson. Sure, lets go with that....

Put the pot down. Letangs bone head moves are all on his own.
You can come up with excuses all day. It's been a problem for what the last 3 seasons now.
I know, wait, lets blame it all on JJ even though he wasn't even here all that time.

Idiot.

Dude just tried to call me out then played it off as a “over my head” joke. He’s lost just let ignore him and he’ll go away ha

You are mostly right. Definitely would not move Letang over Johnson. Letang does so much more good than bad. He has the puck on his stick so much of course he is going to have more turnovers. But the good far outweighs the bad.

You’ve been the one coming at me here...you didn’t have to comment at all. But you do it anyway because you’re a lifeless troll. You are ill informed and actually believe that +/- is the same thing as analytics. Idk how anyone can be this mind numbingly stupid but apparently you are.

It's getting to the point he's costing the team double digit games with bad play. I mean really one more playoff year where he costs games with stupid decision making and you have to start to wonder how short the leash is.
Some of the mistakes are just egregious.

There's no denying he makes some pretty boneheaded plays. There is also no denying that the penguins are a better team with him than without.

that really depends on who you replace him with at this point doesn't it?
I'm not saying I would move him for nothing.
The whole point was people want to complain about Jack Johnson and act like he is the main issue back there. He's not. There is more than enough blame to go around and the truth is defensemen shouldn't be turning the puck over 53 times. Those are bigger issues than anything JJ is doing.