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Could this Petry trade work DAL Fans

Created by: MTLFAN27
Initial Creation Date: Jan 23, 2020
Published: Jan 23 at 11:19 pm
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Trades
MTL
  1. Robertson, Jason
  2. Hanzal, Martin
  3. Honka, Julius [Reserve List]
  4. 2020 1st round pick (DAL)
Additional Details:
The Canadiens receive a silimar return to what the Kings did for Jake Muzzin (Grundstrom + Durzi + 1st) A little bit better than that because they take on the salary of Martin Hanzal. Hanzal waives his M-NTC and the Canadiens buy him out. Honka for Juulsen is just two players that need a fresh start.
DAL
  1. Petry, Jeff
  2. Juulsen, Noah
Additional Details:
The Stars need a top 4 RD as they have Klingberg but then their next best RD is Stephen Johns. Juulsen and Honka both need a fresh start.
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
  • Martin Hanzal: $2,083,333
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Marco Scandella: $2,000,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
  • Keith Kinkaid: $675,000 ($1,750,000)
  • Matthew Peca: $225,000 ($1,300,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
DAL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
ANA
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
OTT
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,449,641$0$4,297,500$4,050,359
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Kovalchuk, Ilya
$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 3
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Cousins, Nick
$1,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Thompson, Nate
$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Weise, Dale
$2,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 3
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD
RFA - 1
MTL
Primeau, Cayden
$880,833
G
RFA - 3
MTL
Scandella, Marco
$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
MTL
Fleury, Cale
$771,666
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 4
DAL
Robertson, Jason
$795,000
LW
RFA - 3
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Folin, Christian
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4

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Jan 23 at 11:23
#1
Wqrrior
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id use juulsen elsewhere in a trade.

petry probably worth robertson and a 2nd. Robertson carries more value than any of the prospects in the Muzzin trade. Hanzal is LTIR so i dont think he needs to be moved.
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Jan 23 at 11:27
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To much to give up for Dallas. They are number 1 in Defense and last in offense. Maybe try a trade where they get Tartar instead. Isnt Petry like 50 years old already, seems so long since he was on the OIlers
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Jan 23 at 11:27
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Billy739
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Quoting: Wqrrior
id use juulsen elsewhere in a trade.

petry probably worth robertson and a 2nd. Robertson carries more value than any of the prospects in the Muzzin trade. Hanzal is LTIR so i dont think he needs to be moved.


depends on who you ask

DAL fans were trying to give him away for the past week in trades for some reason .
confused the crap outta me but i kept getting told he didnt jump straight to the NHL like they thought and wanted to sell before his percieved value dropped
Jan 23 at 11:29
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Quoting: Billy739
depends on who you ask

DAL fans were trying to give him away for the past week in trades for some reason .
confused the crap outta me but i kept getting told he didnt jump straight to the NHL like they thought and wanted to sell before his percieved value dropped


That is why none of us are GM's unless Chia is on here.
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Jan 23 at 11:35
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Billy739
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Quoting: Copenhagen
That is why none of us are GM's unless Chia is on here.


i'd probably equate Robertson to Poehling more or less
has value but its unclear how much past they'll both be NHL regulars in the future .

i mean they both could be great but im sure DAL thought that about Jason Dickinson to at one point
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Jan 23 at 11:42
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Quoting: Billy739
i'd probably equate Robertson to Poehling more or less
has value but its unclear how much past they'll both be NHL regulars in the future .

i mean they both could be great but im sure DAL thought that about Jason Dickinson to at one point


Poehling wasnt ever an elite finisher though. Skating was Robertson's problem and why he dropped in the draft. He can work on that though, look at draisaitl, he had foot speed issues as well. He is great now. Depends on how much work Robertson will do during the off season.
Jan 23 at 11:46
#7
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Quoting: Copenhagen
To much to give up for Dallas. They are number 1 in Defense and last in offense. Maybe try a trade where they get Tartar instead. Isnt Petry like 50 years old already, seems so long since he was on the OIlers


Petry could help your offense as well he's on pace for 46 points this year and he can play on the PP. Petry is 32 yrs old but only has this year and next left on his contract, then you can sign him for however long you like. We could give up Tatar but that would cost you some more.
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Jan 23 at 11:47
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Poehling wasnt ever an elite finisher though. Skating was Robertson's problem and why he dropped in the draft. He can work on that though, look at draisaitl, he had foot speed issues as well. He is great now. Depends on how much work Robertson will do during the off season.


Same Line , Same Tournament as Robertson and it was Poehling who came out MVP and top scorer
just saying Poehling may choose to be a playmaker more then a goal scorer but he makes all those around them better as both Robertson and Caufield had career numbers internationally.

im not saying identical just similar value
Poehling dropped because of confidioning which St Cloud team doctors discovered was a blockage in his naval cavity and post surgery he took off.
if they would have discovered this before the draft who knows but after surgery he pushed himself to a position where he's as valued as our 3rd overall pick

he's showed he's grown a lot in a little bit of time but we have to remember he isnt canadian there was no AAA road schedules and NHL style format seasons/playoffs and hockey for Poehling was always la school related thing .your guy was a genius and prepared himself ahead of time
Jan 23 at 11:52
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Quoting: Billy739
Same Line , Same Tournament as Robertson and it was Poehling who came out MVP and top scorer
just saying Poehling may choose to be a playmaker more then a goal scorer but he makes all those around them better as both Robertson and Caufield had career numbers internationally.

im not saying identical just similar value
Poehling dropped because of confidioning which St Cloud team doctors discovered was a blockage in his naval cavity and post surgery he took off.
if they would have discovered this before the draft who knows but after surgery he pushed himself to a position where he's as valued as our 3rd overall pick

he's showed he's grown a lot in a little bit of time but we have to remember he isnt canadian there was no AAA road schedules and NHL style format seasons/playoffs and hockey for Poehling was always la school related thing .your guy was a genius and prepared himself ahead of time


Goal scorers also have a bit easier time translating to NHL than playmakers though. that is why alot of people dont value Bracco as high as leafs fans do.
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Jan 23 at 11:53
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Quoting: MTLFAN27
Petry could help your offense as well he's on pace for 46 points this year and he can play on the PP. Petry is 32 yrs old but only has this year and next left on his contract, then you can sign him for however long you like. We could give up Tatar but that would cost you some more.


Petry's only 2 years older then Muzzin and has had a better career individually stats wise .
his power is in his shot and on Power Play quarter backing the play so his value will maintain for as long as his feet can keep up

will it be a long time? who knows
will it be until his contract is up atleast ? Absolutely given his pace the past few years on bad teams
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Jan 23 at 11:56
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Quoting: Billy739
Petry's only 2 years older then Muzzin and has had a better career individually stats wise .
his power is in his shot and on Power Play quarter backing the play so his value will maintain for as long as his feet can keep up

will it be a long time? who knows
will it be until his contract is up atleast ? Absolutely given his pace the past few years on bad teams


Exactly playing with someone like Miro he could be around 50 points by the end of the season
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Jan 24 at 12:00
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Quoting: MTLFAN27
Exactly playing with someone like Miro he could be around 50 points by the end of the season


That is McDavid pace, and Dallas cant score, so I dont really think that is possible
Jan 24 at 12:01
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Quoting: Copenhagen
That is McDavid pace, and Dallas cant score, so I dont really think that is possible


wait you think 50 pts a year is Mcdavid pact or did i miss something /
Jan 24 at 12:06
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wait you think 50 pts a year is Mcdavid pact or did i miss something /


LOL no, i think he has 20 points with 30 games left, to hit 50 is a point per game for Petry and the team already has problems scoring and the quality of hockey ramps up pretty quick so it is harder to score points. So 30 points in 30 games for Petry will be tough no matter which team he is on, especially with no PP time in Dallas
Jan 24 at 12:06
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Quoting: Billy739
wait you think 50 pts a year is Mcdavid pact or did i miss something /


I was gonna say that's not McDavid pace that's 4 extra points from his pace right now
Jan 24 at 12:11
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Quoting: Copenhagen
LOL no, i think he has 20 points with 30 games left, to hit 50 is a point per game for Petry and the team already has problems scoring and the quality of hockey ramps up pretty quick so it is harder to score points. So 30 points in 30 games for Petry will be tough no matter which team he is on, especially with no PP time in Dallas


Petry has 28 points in 50 games. (0.56 PPG) Dallas has 34 games remaining. 0.56 × 84 total games = 47.04. Petry is on pace for 47 points
Jan 24 at 12:14
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Petry has 28 points in 50 games. (0.56 PPG) Dallas has 34 games remaining. 0.56 × 84 total games = 47.04. Petry is on pace for 47 points


Dallas doesn't score even close to the same rate as the habs. but I didnt know they still had that many games left
Jan 24 at 12:16
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Quoting: Copenhagen
LOL no, i think he has 20 points with 30 games left, to hit 50 is a point per game for Petry and the team already has problems scoring and the quality of hockey ramps up pretty quick so it is harder to score points. So 30 points in 30 games for Petry will be tough no matter which team he is on, especially with no PP time in Dallas


Also you could play 2 defenceman on the PP. Petry has 2 goals and 9 points on the PP this year.
Jan 24 at 12:17
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Dallas doesn't score even close to the same rate as the habs. but I didnt know they still had that many games left


That's fair. I think it would be realistic to say he could get to 45 points though
Jan 24 at 12:19
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Also you could play 2 defenceman on the PP. Petry has 2 goals and 9 points on the PP this year.


Also Petry can play 23:25 a night too
Jan 24 at 12:19
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That's fair. I think it would be realistic to say he could get to 45 points though


Without pp time, 1/3 of his points are on PP. so if he had 40 in dallas I would be surprised. But I have been wrong lots in my life, so why not another time.
Jan 24 at 12:21
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Without pp time, 1/3 of his points are on PP. so if he had 40 in dallas I would be surprised. But I have been wrong lots in my life, so why not another time.


Who's on your PP now? Could you play 2 D on your PP?
Jan 24 at 12:22
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Also you could play 2 defenceman on the PP. Petry has 2 goals and 9 points on the PP this year.


it might be easier to offer him to VAN
Benn has been a healthy scratch and Meyers is their only top 4 D and he's a stay at home D not an offensive guy

Edler-Petry
Hughes -Meyers

Juolevi would be a good piece to acquire
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Jan 24 at 12:24
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Also Petry can play 23:25 a night too


Not sure if he will get 23 minutes a night behind Klingberg. that guy is a machine. Petry might get lots of PK time though
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Jan 24 at 12:25
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Who's on your PP now? Could you play 2 D on your PP?


Teams dont do that except on their 2nd unit sometimes when they have not enough depth, like the Oilers. I am an Oilers fan, hate the stars, but see them lots as they are in our time zone
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