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Nugent-Hopkins

Created by: Pharow
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 6, 2020
Published: Feb. 6, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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This is the exact same trade offer that for tatar. Lets do business.
Trades
EDM
  1. Juulsen, Noah
  2. Norlinder, Mattias [Reserve List]
  3. Weise, Dale
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
Additional Details:
A cap dump
A good Dprospect
And a former first round with talent who have done nothing yet
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
27$81,500,000$79,257,142$0$1,770,000$2,242,858
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$350,000$350,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
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$763,333$763,333 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
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NMC
UFA - 7
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
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UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$748,333$748,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Feb. 6, 2020 at 2:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Sebybbq
So basically he can call me a idiot and get away with it?
I have been polite this whole discussion i am a bit disturbed that i received this noticed, when i am the one who got insulted.


Who said he got away with it? And also "special condition" isn't a flattery.

Continue to be polite, report it and move on. Don't engage likewise. That changes nothing.
Feb. 6, 2020 at 3:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
Forgot edm has always been a real playoff contender they were in the same boat as those teams pal


So again that comment mean tatar and nugent hopkins have been playing for both a loosing team for the past 5 season. That prove exactly what i have been saying from the start nugent hopkins is comparable to tatar. So this deal is fair enough to land nugent hopkins due to edmonton standard.
Feb. 6, 2020 at 3:04 p.m.
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So basically he can call me a idiot and get away with it?
I have been polite this whole discussion i am a bit disturbed that i received this noticed, when i am the one who got insulted.


Yup calling someone special needs to totally fair game right?!
Feb. 6, 2020 at 3:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
Yup calling someone special needs to totally fair game right?!


I would be flattered if someone think i am special. There nothing bad about being special
Feb. 6, 2020 at 3:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
Forgot edm has always been a real playoff contender they were in the same boat as those teams pal


So after all that scrums you finally realize that tatar and nugent hopkins are comparable player in comparable situation and that this trade is faire enough to land Nugent-Hopkins since you thought that the tatar trade was fair enough
Feb. 6, 2020 at 3:21 p.m.
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So after all that scrums you finally realize that tatar and nugent hopkins are comparable player in comparable situation and that this trade is faire enough to land Nugent-Hopkins since you thought that the tatar trade was fair enough


No not at all nuge is better younger and plays wing or up the middle gonna have to agree to disagree and I’m totally fine with that
Feb. 6, 2020 at 3:25 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
Who said he got away with it? And also "special condition" isn't a flattery.

Continue to be polite, report it and move on. Don't engage likewise. That changes nothing.


If someone can explain why we get infraction or warning beside the little explanation we get when it pops out? I would want to know where the line is draw and what inhave done this time since i was just asking a question. I get it for the first one and i should said ‘special’ but i would really like to have explanation for the second one?
Feb. 6, 2020 at 3:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
No not at all nuge is better younger and plays wing or up the middle gonna have to agree to disagree and I’m totally fine with that


And again you have brings nothing but your opinion here so it’s basically like you have said nothing new. The facts and the number are against you. Tatar is comparable to Nugent hopkins and there nothing more to say about it since you can’t brings any tangible argument
Feb. 6, 2020 at 3:27 p.m.
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But Montreal should trade tatar for spare part?


They aren't going to the playoffs.
Feb. 6, 2020 at 3:29 p.m.
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They aren't going to the playoffs.


And tell us something we didn’t know? Somthe oilers should have trade mcdavid draistail and nugent hopkins since they where not a playoff team last season?
So everyteam that miss playoff should trade their best forward?
Feb. 6, 2020 at 3:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Sebybbq
And again you have brings nothing but your opinion here so it’s basically like you have said nothing new. The facts and the number are against you. Tatar is comparable to Nugent hopkins and there nothing more to say about it since you can’t brings any tangible argument


We’ve been talking about the stats and who they’ve played for with against for the past 3 hours what more is there lmao you haven’t brought anything, tatar has played on better teams then nuges oilers so
Feb. 6, 2020 at 3:30 p.m.
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If someone can explain why we get infraction or warning beside the little explanation we get when it pops out? I would want to know where the line is draw and what inhave done this time since i was just asking a question. I get it for the first one and i should said ‘special’ but i would really like to have explanation for the second one?


https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/54584

Its impossible to tell you where the line is exactly since its dealt with on a case by case basis and its to the mods discretion. If you feel someone is breaking the rules, report it and let us deal with it. Its as simple as that.
Feb. 6, 2020 at 3:36 p.m.
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A better d prospect? Norlinder is as good as a prospect then samorukov.


Corey Pronman has Samorukov ranked ahead of Josh Brook. Norlinder isn't even on the list.

https://theathletic.com/1186105/2019/09/12/pronman-top-123-nhl-prospects-entering-the-2019-20-season/
Feb. 6, 2020 at 3:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
We’ve been talking about the stats and who they’ve played for with against for the past 3 hours what more is there lmao you haven’t brought anything, tatar has played on better teams then nuges oilers so


Yeah absolutely the red wings who just finished in the bottom of the standings for the third straight year and will be the worst team this year, or the habs that miss the playoffs last year and again this year. Those team are by far superior of the oilers team of the past 5 years. Nugent hopkins is maybe worst then tatar actually since tatar havent played with high talented player. Nugent-Hopkins have had hall eberle, draistail, mcdavid as linemate and still can get the job done. Yeah clearly tatar is the best player here. He make is linemates better. Hall have put career number since he doesnt have to carry that bullet anymore. And nugent hopkins only produced when draistail or mcdavid is on is line.
Tatar >>>>>> Nugent hopkins.
Feb. 6, 2020 at 3:52 p.m.
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Corey Pronman has Samorukov ranked ahead of Josh Brook. Norlinder isn't even on the list.

https://theathletic.com/1186105/2019/09/12/pronman-top-123-nhl-prospects-entering-the-2019-20-season/


And can you have a article that isn’t a half a year old ? This list isnt accurate no more since there almost a season that have been played since. A prospect ranked over 100 isn’t a high prize for no one.
Feb. 6, 2020 at 4:07 p.m.
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And can you have a article that isn’t a half a year old ? This list isnt accurate no more since there almost a season that have been played since. A prospect ranked over 100 isn’t a high prize for no one.


Both Brook and Samorukov are ranked well inside the top-100. And no, Pronman hasn't updated his rankings yet and likely won't until next September. Scott Wheeler is in the process of releasing his, but they're incomplete. If you think half a season of play for any prospect is going to change their ranking drastically, you're doing it wrong.
Feb. 6, 2020 at 4:23 p.m.
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Both Brook and Samorukov are ranked well inside the top-100. And no, Pronman hasn't updated his rankings yet and likely won't until next September. Scott Wheeler is in the process of releasing his, but they're incomplete. If you think half a season of play for any prospect is going to change their ranking drastically, you're doing it wrong.


Actually yes it is. Goncheck the list from 2018 and some of the prospect who where way higher have drop off in drastic mesure. Button have release a list in early january and both brook and samurokov wasn’t in the top 50 of that list. Both need time in ahl before having a chance in nhl they aren’t top tier prospect in any mather.
 
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