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Created by: PenGoater99
Initial Creation Date: Feb 4, 2020
Published: Feb 6, 2020 at 2:35
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Trades
PIT
  1. Saad, Brandon ($500,000 retained)
CHI
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
  2. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Would this be enough?
PIT
  1. Zucker, Jason ($500,000 retained)
  2. 2021 4th round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Ölund, Linus
  3. 2021 1st round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
I don't think this is enough, but why not try
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Casey DeSmith: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
MIN
PIT
PIT
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$74,206,625$132,500$3,700,000$7,293,375

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
$925,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
CHI
Saad, Brandon
$4,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
MIN
Zucker, Jason
$5,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
PIT
Simon, Dominik
$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
PIT
McCann, Jared
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
$3,750,000
G
UFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$874,125
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
RD
UFA - 2
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$675,000
G
UFA - 1
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$850,000
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Schultz, Justin
$5,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Johnson, Jack
$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Hörnqvist, P.
Crosby, S.
Malkin, E.
Zucker, J.
Letang, K.
Power Play 2
Kahun, D.
McCann, J.
Saad, B.
Rust, B.
Pettersson, M.
Penalty Kill 1
McCann, J.
Rust, B.
Dumoulin, B.
Marino, J.
Penalty Kill 2
Blueger, T.
Tanev, B.
Pettersson, M.
Letang, K.

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Feb 6, 2020 at 2:46
#1
bigZ
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 680
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Apparently Saad is worth like Poulin Addison and a 1st according to most hawks fans so idk
Feb 6, 2020 at 2:48
#2
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 5,351
Likes: 1,533
$11M cap hit for two non-physical, meh defense, 45 point, complementary guys

And all that you gave up for the $11M cap hit of mediocrity is Galchenyuk, Joseph, Bjugstad, Olund, 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Feb 6, 2020 at 2:49
#3
Thread Starter
Analytics are good
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 3,092
Likes: 777
Quoting: Yojimbo
$11M cap hit for two non-physical, meh defense, 45 point, complementary guys

And all that you gave up for the $11M cap hit of mediocrity is Galchenyuk, Joseph, Bjugstad, Olund, 1st, 2nd, 3rd


Both Saad and Zucker are better than mediocre but sure, go off
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Feb 6, 2020 at 2:51
#4
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 7,034
Likes: 2,631
Quoting: Yojimbo
$11M cap hit for two non-physical, meh defense, 45 point, complementary guys

And all that you gave up for the $11M cap hit of mediocrity is Galchenyuk, Joseph, Bjugstad, Olund, 1st, 2nd, 3rd


Saad has only been better than guys like Patrick Kane and Alex Debrincat this year... And Zucker is a legit first liner as much as you don't want to admit it, he's good, probably hits 25/35/60 with a full year playing with Crosby
Feb 6, 2020 at 2:51
#5
Thread Starter
Analytics are good
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 3,092
Likes: 777
Quoting: bigZ98
Apparently Saad is worth like Poulin Addison and a 1st according to most hawks fans so idk


He is very good, I'm not going to hide that, but it's hard to guess his value. Casual fans see that he doesn't put up a ton of points which leads them to believe he isn't that good, but his underlying numbers would suggest otherwise.
Feb 6, 2020 at 2:52
#6
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 5,351
Likes: 1,533
Quoting: bigZ98
Apparently Saad is worth like Poulin Addison and a 1st according to most hawks fans so idk


They are just upset that Kahun is out producing him. Literally.
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Feb 6, 2020 at 2:54
#7
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 5,351
Likes: 1,533
Quoting: PenGoater99
He is very good, I'm not going to hide that, but it's hard to guess his value. Casual fans see that he doesn't put up a ton of points which leads them to believe he isn't that good, but his underlying numbers would suggest otherwise.


You can have the best advanced stats on the planet, but if you don't do anything with those... 100% worthless.
Feb 6, 2020 at 2:57
#8
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 5,351
Likes: 1,533
Quoting: AFOX10900
Saad has only been better than guys like Patrick Kane and Alex Debrincat this year... And Zucker is a legit first liner as much as you don't want to admit it, he's good, probably hits 25/35/60 with a full year playing with Crosby


Arguably only 3 players have "improved" as wings of Crosby and/or Malkin over their entire careers. This improvement is simply a false concept.
Feb 6, 2020 at 3:03
#9
MNBassman
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 6,040
Likes: 2,702
Quoting: Yojimbo
$11M cap hit for two non-physical, meh defense, 45 point, complementary guys

And all that you gave up for the $11M cap hit of mediocrity is Galchenyuk, Joseph, Bjugstad, Olund, 1st, 2nd, 3rd


Zucker’s legs are his money makers, but he actually has a little bite to his game too. I agree with you about his “meh” defense though.

Quoting: AFOX10900
Saad has only been better than guys like Patrick Kane and Alex Debrincat this year... And Zucker is a legit first liner as much as you don't want to admit it, he's good, probably hits 25/35/60 with a full year playing with Crosby


Wild fan here. Zucker is NOT a first liner...not a bonafide one anyway. He’s a very good middle 6 forward who can play on the first line...especially if he’s on a line with Crosby. There’s a big difference between being a 1st liner and being able to play on the 1st line.
Feb 6, 2020 at 3:06
#10
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 5,351
Likes: 1,533
74.41% of the ev time that Crosby is on the ice... Dominik Simon is too. That makes Simon a top line wing! Pens should be able to trade him for a few 1sts, top prospects, etc etc etc.

Wow, this bslogic stuff is fun...
Feb 6, 2020 at 3:43
#11
Thread Starter
Analytics are good
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 3,092
Likes: 777
Quoting: Yojimbo
74.41% of the ev time that Crosby is on the ice... Dominik Simon is too. That makes Simon a top line wing! Pens should be able to trade him for a few 1sts, top prospects, etc etc etc.

Wow, this bslogic stuff is fun...


Well nobody said that so now you just look like an idiot
Feb 6, 2020 at 3:55
#12
Joined: Jun 2018
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Quoting: Yojimbo
Arguably only 3 players have "improved" as wings of Crosby and/or Malkin over their entire careers. This improvement is simply a false concept.


Simon Guentzel Dupuis Sheary
Feb 6, 2020 at 5:47
#13
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 5,351
Likes: 1,533
Quoting: PenGoater99
Well nobody said that so now you just look like an idiot


It's a take on how people think that Zucker, Saad, Athanasiou, etc are of high return value. Not being able to understand that make someone just look like an idio... well, maybe you can figure it out on your own.
 
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