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Leafs and Wild who says no

Created by: coreydox
Initial Creation Date: Feb 21, 2020
Published: Feb 21 at 3:58 am
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
TOR
  1. Brodin, Jonas
  2. Donato, Ryan
  3. 2020 1st round pick (PIT)
MIN
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Dermott, Travis
  3. 2020 4th round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$71,870,611$0$470,000$9,629,389
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 3
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Malgin, Denis
$750,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
TOR
Timashov, Dmytro
$694,444
LW
RFA - 1
TOR
Clifford, Kyle
$800,000
LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
MIN
Donato, Ryan
$1,900,000
RW, LW, C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$675,000
G
UFA - 1
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
$4,166,667
LD
UFA - 2
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
TOR
Korshkov, Yegor
$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
TOR
Ceci, Cody
$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1

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Feb 21 at 4:23
#1
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Leafs should say no and MN should say yes.
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Feb 21 at 5:41
#2
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MIN should say no, Brodin is a first pair dmen and they give up a first on top
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Feb 21 at 6:49
#3
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That trade changed. It was Dumba+ stuff at first.
Feb 21 at 6:54
#4
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Quoting: Obcd1
MIN should say no, Brodin is a first pair dmen and they give up a first on top


Wild still have Suter/Spurgeon forever. Brodin has a year left, and MN can't re-sign and protect him without trading Dumba (or leave him unprotected for Seattle). I prefer trading Dumba and re-signing Brodin for MN.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Tor still. Just re-sign Muzzin and you've got about the same player as Brodin.
Feb 21 at 7:24
#5
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Quoting: Obcd1
MIN should say no, Brodin is a first pair dmen and they give up a first on top


LOl when did brodin become a top pairing man. Is he Victor Hedman?
He is an ok top 4 d man and Nylander is playing like an elite player.
Leafs reject in a heartbeat
Feb 21 at 7:41
#6
MNBassman
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Quoting: Hockeytor15
LOl when did brodin become a top pairing man. Is he Victor Hedman?
He is an ok top 4 d man and Nylander is playing like an elite player.
Leafs reject in a heartbeat


If you are older than 15, ignorance can not be used as an excuse anymore...but I will help you do some research. I’m stealing a post from @TanSor here. Please read, then do some more research...then publicly admit how wrong you were.

“For what it's worth, here's the national statistics writer at The Athletic on Brodin:”

"Dom Luszczyszyn: It’s no wonder the prices are all out of whack for defenders during the deadline: With six days left the market is basically already dry, especially for rentals.

If I’m a team right now I’m probably going hard after a guy like Jonas Brodin who is for my money probably one of the best defensive defensemen on the planet. He will be hard to pry out if Minnesota, but he’s worth the price, especially since he comes with term on a reasonably cheap deal – he has one more season with a $4.17 million cap hit. No one else available will provide the impact Brodin does."
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Feb 21 at 8:28
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Quoting: MNBassman
If you are older than 15, ignorance can not be used as an excuse anymore...but I will help you do some research. I’m stealing a post from @TanSor here. Please read, then do some more research...then publicly admit how wrong you were.

“For what it's worth, here's the national statistics writer at The Athletic on Brodin:”

"Dom Luszczyszyn: It’s no wonder the prices are all out of whack for defenders during the deadline: With six days left the market is basically already dry, especially for rentals.

If I’m a team right now I’m probably going hard after a guy like Jonas Brodin who is for my money probably one of the best defensive defensemen on the planet. He will be hard to pry out if Minnesota, but he’s worth the price, especially since he comes with term on a reasonably cheap deal – he has one more season with a $4.17 million cap hit. No one else available will provide the impact Brodin does."


When the heck did I want Brodin.
If you like Brodin make someone else overpay Brodin pls. I love Nylander
Feb 21 at 8:57
#8
MNBassman
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Quoting: Hockeytor15
When the heck did I want Brodin.
If you like Brodin make someone else overpay Brodin pls. I love Nylander


I didn’t say you wanted him. I was responding to your comment calling Brodin an “ok top 4 d man” which is a very ignorant statement!
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Feb 21 at 11:09
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Quoting: MNBassman
I didn’t say you wanted him. I was responding to your comment calling Brodin an “ok top 4 d man” which is a very ignorant statement!


Yea a true top 4 d man is Josh Manson. Brodin is not near him
Feb 21 at 12:55
#10
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Quoting: Hockeytor15
LOl when did brodin become a top pairing man. Is he Victor Hedman?
He is an ok top 4 d man and Nylander is playing like an elite player.
Leafs reject in a heartbeat


So a Leaf fan overvalue the Leafs, how unusual
Feb 21 at 1:54
#11
MNBassman
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Quoting: Hockeytor15
Yea a true top 4 d man is Josh Manson. Brodin is not near him


@TanSor Would you like to do the honors here?
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Feb 21 at 1:57
#12
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Edited Feb 21 at 2:25 by Jarvis
Quoting: Obcd1
So a Leaf fan overvalue the Leafs, how unusual


Oh ok a player on pace for 35 goals is not elite
I guess your the smart one so I guess Nylander is overrated, that's a very unpopular opinion
Feb 21 at 2:04
#13
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Quoting: Hockeytor15
Yea a true top 4 d man is Josh Manson. Brodin is not near him


Here's my quote from a previous thread, I think you need to give it a read with that take:

"For what it's worth, here's the national statistics writer at The Athletic on Brodin:

"Dom Luszczyszyn: It’s no wonder the prices are all out of whack for defenders during the deadline: With six days left the market is basically already dry, especially for rentals.

If I’m a team right now I’m probably going hard after a guy like Jonas Brodin who is for my money probably one of the best defensive defensemen on the planet. He will be hard to pry out if Minnesota, but he’s worth the price, especially since he comes with term on a reasonably cheap deal – he has one more season with a $4.17 million cap hit. No one else available will provide the impact Brodin does."

I know I'll get pegged as a homer, but Brodin is seriously a phenomenal player that nobody talks about. I really don't want to move him and I'm not particularly sold on moving him for Trocheck, but we need centers so frickin' badly that I'm intrigued by Trocheck even if he does have some concerns."
Feb 21 at 2:45
#14
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Quoting: TanSor
Here's my quote from a previous thread, I think you need to give it a read with that take:

"For what it's worth, here's the national statistics writer at The Athletic on Brodin:

"Dom Luszczyszyn: It’s no wonder the prices are all out of whack for defenders during the deadline: With six days left the market is basically already dry, especially for rentals.

If I’m a team right now I’m probably going hard after a guy like Jonas Brodin who is for my money probably one of the best defensive defensemen on the planet. He will be hard to pry out if Minnesota, but he’s worth the price, especially since he comes with term on a reasonably cheap deal – he has one more season with a $4.17 million cap hit. No one else available will provide the impact Brodin does."

I know I'll get pegged as a homer, but Brodin is seriously a phenomenal player that nobody talks about. I really don't want to move him and I'm not particularly sold on moving him for Trocheck, but we need centers so frickin' badly that I'm intrigued by Trocheck even if he does have some concerns."


Here is also my quote
if you think Brodin is that good make someone else overpay him
Leaf's don't want a player that a team is gonna want you to overpay
I would like to keep my Nylander and go after someone else like Severson
 
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