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TBL CBO

Created by: CaptainFlynnt
Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 10, 2020
Published: Apr. 10, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Just a basic exercise to see what a flat cap with one CBO would like look if TB wants to keep all there RFA's. They barely come in under the cap with a 20 man roster. Will they have the depth they need to be a contender?

If another team was able to get Sergachev to accept an offersheet of $7M+ I dont see how TB matches.
Free Agent Signings
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3$5,500,000
3$4,000,000
3$2,000,000
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    Need cap space. Killorn only guy without a full NTC.
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      Need more cap space, CBO.
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      20$81,500,000$81,450,832$0$632,500$49,168
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      C, LW
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      C, LW, RW
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      $809,166$809,166 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
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      LD
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      $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
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      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:14 p.m.
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      Cirelli would more for 3 years. He would take that for 2 year though
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      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:15 p.m.
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      @coga16 as pointed out, Jost would not be an acceptable return for Killorn. They need < $1M contracts back.
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:15 p.m.
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      Quoting: Torontoleafs15
      Cirelli would more for 3 years. He would take that for 2 year though


      Probably cernak too.
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      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:18 p.m.
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      Got news for you Cirelli gets every bit as much as Sergachev, Cirelli is considered one of Tampa's bright spots he'd be the least likely to move. Julien Brisebois would move on without either Cernak or Sergachev before Cirelli that's for dang sure.
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      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:19 p.m.
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      Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
      Got news for Cirelli gets every bit as much as Sergachev, Cirelli is considered one of Tampa's bright spots he'd be the least likely to move. Julien Brisebois would move on without either Cernak or Sergachev before Cirelli that's for dang sure.


      Good to know, I personally want to offersheet Sergachev so if the other guy wants more that makes it easier.
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:24 p.m.
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      Would tampa buy out some one else if Oilers traded for Gourde
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:25 p.m.
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      Good to know, I personally want to offersheet Sergachev so if the other guy wants more that makes it easier.


      Sergachev still would need to sign any offer sheet, Doubt he'd take one from Montreal. Heard he was pretty miffed by the whole trade situation plus loves it in Tampa now. Any other team he might bite if the AAV is close to $7 million or so.
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:25 p.m.
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      Quoting: Copenhagen
      Would tampa buy out some one else if Oilers traded for Gourde


      Gourde has a full NTC, assuming he wants to stay in TB.

      As does Johnson, Palat, Hedman, Kucherov, Stamkoc, Coburn etc.
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:27 p.m.
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      Quoting: Copenhagen
      Would tampa buy out some one else if Oilers traded for Gourde


      Why would any sane GM want Yanni Gourde at 5 years left and an AAV of $5.166.666 left on his deal? He's pretty much a 3rd liner now and in the future.
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:28 p.m.
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      Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
      Sergachev still would need to sign any offer sheet, Doubt he'd take one from Montreal. Heard he was pretty miffed by the whole trade situation plus loves it in Tampa now. Any other team he might bite if the AAV is close to $7 million or so.


      Doesnt have to be MTL, could be any team. He could even just sign an offersheet to use as leverage against TB if he wants to. Say for example TB says we will only give you $4M × 2 years. Well Sergachev and his agent have an offersheet of $6.34M × 3 years. They likely accept and say ok TB, you can match or we are gone. Offersheets are the only leverage RFA's have over there team, they should be used.
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:34 p.m.
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      @coga16 as pointed out, Jost would not be an acceptable return for Killorn. They need < $1M contracts back.


      I would have no issues giving up Jost and hes not goign to get more than 1.5m on a bridge deal, I think 1.25m 1 year deal would be fair for him.
      if they want 1m contract then Kamanev would be the young RFA forward to send them with some draft picks
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:34 p.m.
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      Quoting: CaptainFlynnt
      Doesnt have to be MTL, could be any team. He could even just sign an offersheet to use as leverage against TB if he wants to. Say for example TB says we will only give you $4M × 2 years. Well Sergachev and his agent have an offersheet of $6.34M × 3 years. They likely accept and say ok TB, you can match or we are gone. Offersheets are the only leverage RFA's have over there team, they should be used.


      Exactly, And i could see him doing that as well. Depending on the team in question.
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:35 p.m.
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      Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
      Why would any sane GM want Yanni Gourde at 5 years left and an AAV of $5.166.666 left on his deal? He's pretty much a 3rd liner now and in the future.


      I am working on something, but if it they dont have another CBO than it useless. Patient young Jedi
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:36 p.m.
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      Quoting: CaptainFlynnt
      Gourde has a full NTC, assuming he wants to stay in TB.

      As does Johnson, Palat, Hedman, Kucherov, Stamkoc, Coburn etc.


      If Goude gets CBO what does he have than? %^$# all
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:48 p.m.
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      Quoting: Copenhagen
      If Goude gets CBO what does he have than? %^$# all


      He has 2/3 of his contract paid for and the freedom to sign a new contract with any team he wants, assuming he gets at least $3M then he is making money off of it.
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:50 p.m.
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      Quoting: coga16
      I would have no issues giving up Jost and hes not goign to get more than 1.5m on a bridge deal, I think 1.25m 1 year deal would be fair for him.
      if they want 1m contract then Kamanev would be the young RFA forward to send them with some draft picks


      I assumed Jost was better actually, for a 10th overall pick it's not looking good. I could see TB getting him relatively cheap, but it wont necessarily help them keep all of their RFA's if that is the ultimate goal for them.
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 5:51 p.m.
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      Quoting: CaptainFlynnt
      He has 2/3 of his contract paid for and the freedom to sign a new contract with any team he wants, assuming he gets at least $3M then he is making money off of it.


      Exactly. And no movement clause is gone
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 6:00 p.m.
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      Quoting: Copenhagen
      Exactly. And no movement clause is gone


      What is your point? There is no incentive for him to waive his NTC for Edmonton
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 6:01 p.m.
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      What is your point? There is no incentive for him to waive his NTC for Edmonton


      Well he either waves it or gets bought out according to this thread. If you cant figure that out already, Forget about it.
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 6:04 p.m.
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      Quoting: Copenhagen
      Well he either waves it or gets bought out according to this thread. If you cant figure that out already, Forget about it.


      And if he gets bought out he gets 2/3 of his remaining salary, but he is free to sign a new contract with any team he chooses. He would probably get $3M so instead of making ~$5.1M he gets probably $6.5M. He gets more money by being bought out.

      You are the one who cant figure it out.
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 6:08 p.m.
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      And if he gets bought out he gets 2/3 of his remaining salary, but he is free to sign a new contract with any team he chooses. He would probably get $3M so instead of making ~$5.1M he gets probably $6.5M. He gets more money by being bought out.

      You are the one who cant figure it out.


      Yes I am trying to pick him up after he gets bought out. But I thought also if we traded for him and Tampa retained a bit of Salary and bought someone else out. It would help them as well. They would save on 2 fronts. But you cant figure that out.
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 6:18 p.m.
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      I assumed Jost was better actually, for a 10th overall pick it's not looking good. I could see TB getting him relatively cheap, but it wont necessarily help them keep all of their RFA's if that is the ultimate goal for them.


      Jost is a tricky guy to rate...on the surface if you look at his box stats it seems like hes not very good or blah. I dont know how many games that Avs had had that he has looked so solid. good process player forcechecks hard, creates chances, can PK...the guy is legit cursed offensively. He has a break out in him still, but wont with the Avs, they just have too much talent in the top 6 and coming that hes goign to get forced out very quickly if not already.

      hes a 3rd line player, he has carved a role out in that area that is responsible defensively and smart so he wont hurt you with when hes out on the ice
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 6:19 p.m.
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      Quoting: Copenhagen
      Yes I am trying to pick him up after he gets bought out. But I thought also if we traded for him and Tampa retained a bit of Salary and bought someone else out. It would help them as well. They would save on 2 fronts. But you cant figure that out.


      You cant figure out that this has nothing to do with you or TB! Gourde has a NTC! It is more beneficial for Gourde if he gets bought out then waive his NTC! Additionally, TB might not even buy him out there are other options like Johnson!

      Gourde has all the control here, not the oilers, not TB, and definitely not you lol. That's why players ask for NTC's.

      Tell me you are following.

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      Why wouldnt you just sign him after he is bought out anyways? Why would you pay an asset to trade for him when you could sign him for free?
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 6:23 p.m.
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      Quoting: CaptainFlynnt
      You cant figure out that this has nothing to do with you or TB! Gourde has a NTC! It is more beneficial for Gourde if he gets bought out then waive his NTC! Additionally, TB might not even buy him out there are other options like Johnson!

      Gourde has all the control here, not the oilers, not TB, and definitely not you lol. That's why players ask for NTC's.

      Tell me you are following.

      Edit:
      Why wouldnt you just sign him after he is bought out anyways? Why would you pay an asset to trade for him when you could sign him for free?


      Its already done, look at the Oiler thread.
      Apr. 10, 2020 at 6:23 p.m.
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      I think Cirelli will get more money than Sergachev.
       
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