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Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 26, 2020
Published: Apr. 26, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,250,000
3$2,650,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$6,100,000
4$700,000
5$3,650,000
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Quinn, Jack
3$890,000
Raymond, Lucas
3$920,000
Villeneuve, William
3$855,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Bobrovsky, Sergei
  2. Weegar, MacKenzie [RFA Rights]
  3. 2020 1st round pick (FLA)
  4. 2020 5th round pick (TOR)
FLA
  1. Dermott, Travis [RFA Rights]
  2. Kossila, Kalle
  3. 2020 4th round pick (VGK)
  4. 2020 6th round pick (COL)
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3.
TOR
    Jack Quinn (14)
    STL
    1. 2020 1st round pick (FLA)
    4.
    TOR
    1. 2020 1st round pick (SJS)
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    OTT
    1. Korshkov, Yegor
    2. Nylander, William
    3. 2020 4th round pick (TOR)
    4. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
    5.
    TOR
      Lucas Raymond (5)
      VAN
      1. 2020 1st round pick (SJS)
      6.
      TOR
        William Villeneuve
        VAN
        1. 2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
        7.
        TOR
        1. 2021 3rd round pick (DAL)
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        Apr. 26, 2020 at 8:57 p.m.
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        Ottawa cuts the phone cord.

        Why would they trade a pick that gets them a player that will likely be better than Nylander on ELC and 7 years of team control for a guy with 4 years left on his deal?

        SJS and Ottawa's 1st rounders aren't available unless you trade Kapanen and 4 1st round picks.
        Apr. 26, 2020 at 8:59 p.m.
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        Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
        Ottawa cuts the phone cord.

        Why would they trade a pick that gets them a player that will likely be better than Nylander on ELC and 7 years of team control for a guy with 4 years left on his deal?

        SJS and Ottawa's 1st rounders aren't available unless you trade Kapanen and 4 1st round picks.

        Because you are getting a proven player it’s the safer bet
        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:02 p.m.
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        Quoting: Jameshgfgn
        Because you are getting a proven player it’s the safer bet


        He doesn't even fit in Ottawa's contending period... they are rebuilding..

        Ottawa wants picks and prospects. Sandin, Robertson, Kapanen and Liljegren are more attractive than Nylander at this point.

        Maybe throw in those guys plus a 2021 first and it gets you the pick.
        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:08 p.m.
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        Marner + Sandin for SJS 1st and you’re in the ballpark... that’s how valuable that pick is for the Sens...
        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:08 p.m.
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        Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
        He doesn't even fit in Ottawa's contending period... they are rebuilding..

        Ottawa wants picks and prospects. Sandin, Robertson, Kapanen and Liljegren are more attractive than Nylander at this point.

        Maybe throw in those guys plus a 2021 first and it gets you the pick.

        What are you talking about he is 23 years old and the guy you keep bringing up kappy is 23. Nylander UFA in 4 years kappy UFA in 4 years. The difference is Nylander is way better and a player you can help build a team around
        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:09 p.m.
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        Marner + Sandin for SJS 1st and you’re in the ballpark... that’s how valuable that pick is for the Sens...

        No way your owner is paying marner
        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:09 p.m.
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        What are you talking about he is 23 years old and the guy you keep bringing up kappy is 23. Nylander UFA in 4 years kappy UFA in 4 years. The difference is Nylander is way better and a player you can help build a team around


        No Kappy is an RFA in 2 years with a qualifying offer of 800k. He can be signed to a long term deal.
        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:10 p.m.
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        Quoting: Riceroni
        Marner + Sandin for SJS 1st and you’re in the ballpark... that’s how valuable that pick is for the Sens...


        That's a terrible deal. Matthews wouldn't even get it done. We don't want UFAs we want young guys and picks.
        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:11 p.m.
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        Quoting: Riceroni
        Marner + Sandin for SJS 1st and you’re in the ballpark... that’s how valuable that pick is for the Sens...


        Sandin + Marner? Your high
        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:11 p.m.
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        Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
        No Kappy is an RFA in 2 years with a qualifying offer of 800k. He can be signed to a long term deal.

        No he is a UFA in 2024 and nylander is a UFA in 2024
        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:12 p.m.
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        That's a terrible deal. Matthews wouldn't even get it done. We don't want UFAs we want young guys and picks.


        Will you explain how Nylander Matthews or Marner are ufas?
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        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:15 p.m.
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        No Kappy is an RFA in 2 years with a qualifying offer of 800k. He can be signed to a long term deal.

        Also kappys qualifying offer is 3,200,000
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        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:18 p.m.
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        Quoting: Hockeytor15
        Will you explain how Nylander Matthews or Marner are ufas?


        When their contracts expire in 4-5 years the team has no control over them anymore. Ottawa isn't contending for at least 3 years so they will basically only be useful for 1 year and might actually harm Ottawa's ability to finish at the bottom of the league and get good draft picks.

        Quoting: Jameshgfgn
        Also kappys qualifying offer is 3,200,000


        It's not. It's based on the last season salary. (he gets most of his money in signing bonuses)

        Bottom line is Ottawa says no way San Jose.
        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:19 p.m.
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        When their contracts expire in 4-5 years the team has no control over them anymore. Ottawa isn't contending for at least 3 years so they will basically only be useful for 1 year and might actually harm Ottawa's ability to finish at the bottom of the league and get good draft picks.



        It's not. It's based on the last season salary. (he gets most of his money in signing bonuses)


        Ohh I see. So its not like you can have a few seasons of good old Nylander and then trade him. You should worry about covid than worrying about if you can resign Nylander in 5 years
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        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:22 p.m.
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        When their contracts expire in 4-5 years the team has no control over them anymore. Ottawa isn't contending for at least 3 years so they will basically only be useful for 1 year and might actually harm Ottawa's ability to finish at the bottom of the league and get good draft picks.



        It's not. It's based on the last season salary. (he gets most of his money in signing bonuses)

        Bottom line is Ottawa says no way San Jose.

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        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:22 p.m.
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        Ohh I see. So its not like you can have a few seasons of good old Nylander and then trade him. You should worry about covid than worrying about if you can resign Nylander in 5 years

        It’s because no one wants to sign in Ottawa because they are a dumpster fire
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        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:24 p.m.
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        It’s because no one wants to sign in Ottawa because they are a dumpster fire


        Its a junkyard for people who can't afford sh_T
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        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:24 p.m.
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        Ohh I see. So its not like you can have a few seasons of good old Nylander and then trade him. You should worry about covid than worrying about if you can resign Nylander in 5 years


        If Ottawa was Toronto they might take the deal because they are contending. Ottawa is literally 2nd last in the league... Nylander isn't gonna be enough to bring them into a playoff spot.

        Sure if you were trading him for a 2nd round pick Ottawa takes it immediately because they can flip him for a lot more but do you think Detroit's trading their 1st for Nylander...

        You gotta think about what other teams need before you make these kinds of trades.

        If Ottawa wanted to contend now they would have kept Mark Stone.
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        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:25 p.m.
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        2,340,000


        It's not total salary. It's the base salary...
        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:26 p.m.
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        It’s because no one wants to sign in Ottawa because they are a dumpster fire


        Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
        It's not total salary. It's the base salary...


        Okay... so why would Ottawa make this trade... you're just arguing why this trade is terrible for Ottawa.

        I don't get why you guys are so angry. I just pointed out that Ottawa wouldn't do this and you guys are flipping out...

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        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:28 p.m.
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        Okay... so why would Ottawa make this trade... you're just arguing why this trade is terrible for Ottawa.

        I don't get why you guys are so angry. I just pointed out that Ottawa wouldn't do this and you guys are flipping out...


        The only guy I see flipping out is yard sale worker trying to act as a leaf and sens fan. Even though your just a sens fan
        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:30 p.m.
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        If Ottawa was Toronto they might take the deal because they are contending. Ottawa is literally 2nd last in the league... Nylander isn't gonna be enough to bring them into a playoff spot.

        Sure if you were trading him for a 2nd round pick Ottawa takes it immediately because they can flip him for a lot more but do you think Detroit's trading their 1st for Nylander...

        You gotta think about what other teams need before you make these kinds of trades.

        If Ottawa wanted to contend now they would have kept Mark Stone.

        He is 23 stone is 27 totally different. Nylander is still getting better it’s not like he is on the wrong side of 30 he is not even in his prime yet he would literally be in his prime when they start going for it. You are acting like he’s 35
        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:33 p.m.
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        Okay... so why would Ottawa make this trade... you're just arguing why this trade is terrible for Ottawa.

        I don't get why you guys are so angry. I just pointed out that Ottawa wouldn't do this and you guys are flipping out...

        @csick @Claesson4Norris

        I am just pointing out that your reasoning of he’s to old or that he will be a UFA is wrong when your saying stuff like we would rather have kappy
        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:35 p.m.
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        The only guy I see flipping out is yard sale worker trying to act as a leaf and sens fan. Even though your just a sens fan


        Actually the Leafs are my main team. Nylander and Marner have a lot of value... just not on Sens cause they don't fit in our contending window.

        It's like would the Sens want Nylander now or Nylander on a cost friendly ELC when the Sens actually want to start contending.

        Quoting: Jameshgfgn
        He is 23 stone is 27 totally different. Nylander is still getting better it’s not like he is on the wrong side of 30 he is not even in his prime yet he would literally be in his prime when they start going for it. You are acting like he’s 35


        He'll be in his prime and then he'll walk away to another team for nothing or we have to trade him at the deadline on the last year of his contract for scraps compared to what we paid to get him.
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        Apr. 26, 2020 at 9:37 p.m.
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        I am just pointing out that your reasoning of he’s to old or that he will be a UFA is wrong when your saying stuff like we would rather have kappy


        I didn't say just Kappy. I said Kappy plus several more assets we wouldn't get if we were asking for Nylander.

        Say Nylander is worth 10 for the Leafs and Kappy is worth 4. For the Sens Nylander is worth 7 and Kappy is worth 5.

        When Kappy's contract expires we can lock him up for another 5-6 years rather than the 2 years we'd get with Nylander.

        You should find a team that wants to compete like NJ or Arizona to get full value out of Nylander.
         
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