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1 Draisaitil 2.24 PPG
2 Mcdavid 2.08 PPG
3 Panarin 1.81 PPG
4 Eichel 1.70 PPG
5 Kane 1.65 PPG
6 Mackinnon 1.60 PPG
7 Pasta/Marchard 1.56 PPG
9 Kucherov 1.46 PPG
10 Matthews 1.36 PPG

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May 31, 2020 at 8:27 a.m.
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This stat is one to consider for the HART TROPHY. I think the top 2 canadadites for Hart are Eichel and Hellebuyck
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May 31, 2020 at 10:16 a.m.
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This stat is one to consider for the HART TROPHY. I think the top 2 canadadites for Hart are Eichel and Hellebuyck


I sometimes forget about Eichel for Hart for some strange reason so that drastically changes my Hart list lol

In saying that, MacKinnon did pull his team into the playoffs missing Rantanen and Landeskog for a significant amount of time.

1. MacKinnon
2. Helly
3. Eichel
4. Panarin
5. McDavid / Drai
6. Marchy / Pasta
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May 31, 2020 at 10:22 a.m.
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I sometimes forget about Eichel for Hart for some strange reason so that drastically changes my Hart list lol

In saying that, MacKinnon did pull his team into the playoffs missing Rantanen and Landeskog for a significant amount of time.

1. MacKinnon
2. Helly
3. Eichel
4. Panarin
5. McDavid / Drai
6. Marchy / Pasta


Eichel won't get the Hart because his whole team was below average other than Ollofson Dahlin and Reinhart and they missed the playoffs. I like ur list, except Mackinnons team would have made the playoffs if he had scored 70-80 points, he did push them up the standings though. I'd say he is still after Helly...Helly did everything he could and out WPG in the playoffs.
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May 31, 2020 at 11:19 a.m.
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Eichel won't get the Hart because his whole team was below average other than Ollofson Dahlin and Reinhart and they missed the playoffs. I like ur list, except Mackinnons team would have made the playoffs if he had scored 70-80 points, he did push them up the standings though. I'd say he is still after Helly...Helly did everything he could and out WPG in the playoffs.


Fair! Just tryna give Eichel a little love lol
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May 31, 2020 at 12:22 p.m.
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Draisaitl will win the Hart. Eichel, Hellebuyck, Panarin and MacKinnon should round out the top-5, not sure in what order though.
May 31, 2020 at 1:29 p.m.
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Fair! Just tryna give Eichel a little love lol


Ye, I think he deserves it😂 but im a sabres fan, I think ur list is perfect.
May 31, 2020 at 1:29 p.m.
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Draisaitl will win the Hart. Eichel, Hellebuyck, Panarin and MacKinnon should round out the top-5, not sure in what order though.


He doesn't deserve it though... compared to the others
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May 31, 2020 at 1:39 p.m.
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He doesn't deserve it though... compared to the others


He nearly took an average team to the top of the division. His play when McDavid was out was superb, and with McDavid in the lineup Draisaitl still outscored him. His contribution to team GF was the highest in the NHL by far.
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May 31, 2020 at 1:46 p.m.
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He nearly took an average team to the top of the division. His play when McDavid was out was superb, and with McDavid in the lineup Draisaitl still outscored him. His contribution to team GF was the highest in the NHL by far.


He is amazing! my point is that for the Hart Trophy there is better canadaites, I mean a the with 2 top 5 players in the league in one given season shouldn't have 1 of them winning the Hart,
May 31, 2020 at 1:47 p.m.
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He doesn't deserve it though... compared to the others


People here are under the impression that Edmonton is very good offensively and that contributed to Draisaitl's scoring success. They aren't. They were 15th in the league in GF/GP, being outscored by even the Wild and the Hurricanes. Rangers, on the other hand, have the league's 5th most potent offense. Panarin was the better 2-way player, but he had more offensive help than Draisaitl and still trailed him by 11 goals and 15 points. That's a HUGE gap.
May 31, 2020 at 1:55 p.m.
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He is amazing! my point is that for the Hart Trophy there is better canadaites, I mean a the with 2 top 5 players in the league in one given season shouldn't have 1 of them winning the Hart,


Why not? It's happened dozens of times in the past. Kucherov won it last year on a stacked team. Crosby and Malkin have both won Harts. Daniel Sedin won while playing with his brother, Sakic / Forsberg, Lemieux / Jagr, Lafleur / Trottier, Esposito / Orr, the list goes on and on.
May 31, 2020 at 1:57 p.m.
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He nearly took an average team to the top of the division. His play when McDavid was out was superb, and with McDavid in the lineup Draisaitl still outscored him. His contribution to team GF was the highest in the NHL by far.


Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
He is amazing! my point is that for the Hart Trophy there is better canadaites, I mean a the with 2 top 5 players in the league in one given season shouldn't have 1 of them winning the Hart,


So i remember you CD282, yeah @BuFfaLOFaN he argues with me about this before, and he doesnt actually do any research.

"His contribution to team GF was the highest in the NHL" - that is known as Points Share: Mcdavid had a higher OPS of 10.8 than Drai's of 10.4 (close, but no cigar).
Drai also again played an average of nearly 72% of the time with Mcdavid (63% 5on5 and 95% PP time) vs Eichel who had NOBODY and MacKinnon who was missing Rantanen and Landescog for 15+ games each (vs Mcdavids 8)

MOST IMPORTANT: Everyone is entitle to their own opinion (even you CD282!!!), but you can not come on here and make stuff up to try to convince people you are right.
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May 31, 2020 at 2:11 p.m.
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So i remember you CD282, yeah @BuFfaLOFaN he argues with me about this before, and he doesnt actually do any research.

"His contribution to team GF was the highest in the NHL" - that is known as Points Share: Mcdavid had a higher OPS of 10.8 than Drai's of 10.4 (close, but no cigar).
Drai also again played an average of nearly 72% of the time with Mcdavid (63% 5on5 and 95% PP time) vs Eichel who had NOBODY and MacKinnon who was missing Rantanen and Landescog for 15+ games each (vs Mcdavids 8)

MOST IMPORTANT: Everyone is entitle to their own opinion (even you CD282!!!), but you can not come on here and make stuff up to try to convince people you are right.


I don't research because I normally can guess what the stat would say😂 probably a bad habit...
May 31, 2020 at 2:13 p.m.
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Why not? It's happened dozens of times in the past. Kucherov won it last year on a stacked team. Crosby and Malkin have both won Harts. Daniel Sedin won while playing with his brother, Sakic / Forsberg, Lemieux / Jagr, Lafleur / Trottier, Esposito / Orr, the list goes on and on.


Those other players where absolutely dominant, except for Kucherov, who didn't deserve the Hart compared to others last year IMO...but that's fine. Draisaitl IMO is a great player but needs a supporting cast to succeed like he is now, he does so we'll with Yamamato because Yamamato is the badger he buggers everyone and gets the puck to Draisaitl who then converts, I mean Draisaitl isn't the type of player to just walk down the ice and score by himself.
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May 31, 2020 at 2:18 p.m.
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Draisaitl had 110 points, Edmonton had 223 goals: Draisaitl was involved in 49.3% of Edmonton's offense.

Panarin: 95 / 233 = 40.8%
Eichel: 78 / 193 = 40.4%
MacKinnon: 93 / 236 = 39.4%

Past winners:
2019 - Kucherov: 40.1%
2018 - Hall: 38.3%
2017 - McDavid: 41.2%
2016 - Kane: 45.3%
2014 - Crosby: 43.0%
2013 - Ovechkin: 38.4%
2012 - Malkin: 39.9%
2011 - Perry: 41.7%
2010 - Sedin: 41.8%

We haven't seen a player this dominant for a long time, probably not since Lemieux. To say he doesn't "deserve" the Hart is either supremely biased or just plain ignorant.
May 31, 2020 at 2:19 p.m.
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Those other players where absolutely dominant, except for Kucherov, who didn't deserve the Hart compared to others last year IMO...but that's fine. Draisaitl IMO is a great player but needs a supporting cast to succeed like he is now, he does so we'll with Yamamato because Yamamato is the badger he buggers everyone and gets the puck to Draisaitl who then converts, I mean Draisaitl isn't the type of player to just walk down the ice and score by himself.


Lol, look at my comment above for the actual stats.
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Those other players where absolutely dominant, except for Kucherov, who didn't deserve the Hart compared to others last year IMO...but that's fine. Draisaitl IMO is a great player but needs a supporting cast to succeed like he is now, he does so we'll with Yamamato because Yamamato is the badger he buggers everyone and gets the puck to Draisaitl who then converts, I mean Draisaitl isn't the type of player to just walk down the ice and score by himself.


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Draisaitl had 110 points, Edmonton had 223 goals: Draisaitl was involved in 49.3% of Edmonton's offense.

Panarin: 95 / 233 = 40.8%
Eichel: 78 / 193 = 40.4%
MacKinnon: 93 / 236 = 39.4%

Past winners:
2019 - Kucherov: 40.1%
2018 - Hall: 38.3%
2017 - McDavid: 41.2%
2016 - Kane: 45.3%
2014 - Crosby: 43.0%
2013 - Ovechkin: 38.4%
2012 - Malkin: 39.9%
2011 - Perry: 41.7%
2010 - Sedin: 41.8%

We haven't seen a player this dominant for a long time, probably not since Lemieux. To say he doesn't "deserve" the Hart is either supremely biased or just plain ignorant.


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Lol, look at my comment above for the actual stats.


That doesnt account for Ice time or other factors too, the 2016 Blackhawks were a sick team and Kane had less TOi (at 19.51) while Drai had 22.37 Toi this year. Thats nearly two minutes extra per game.
Point shares does take this into Account as well as a number of other thigns. So you are unfortunately incorrect
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May 31, 2020 at 2:30 p.m.
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That doesnt account for Ice time or other factors too, the 2016 Blackhawks were a sick team and Kane had less TOi (at 19.51) while Drai had 22.37 Toi this year. Thats nearly two minutes extra per game.
Point shares does take this into Account as well as a number of other thigns. So you are unfortunately incorrect


Spot on too. Not that OPS is everything, but it’s much more accurate than just saying Drai has a better percent of his teams points
May 31, 2020 at 2:31 p.m.
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Draisaitl had 110 points, Edmonton had 223 goals: Draisaitl was involved in 49.3% of Edmonton's offense.

Panarin: 95 / 233 = 40.8%
Eichel: 78 / 193 = 40.4%
MacKinnon: 93 / 236 = 39.4%

Past winners:
2019 - Kucherov: 40.1%
2018 - Hall: 38.3%
2017 - McDavid: 41.2%
2016 - Kane: 45.3%
2014 - Crosby: 43.0%
2013 - Ovechkin: 38.4%
2012 - Malkin: 39.9%
2011 - Perry: 41.7%
2010 - Sedin: 41.8%

We haven't seen a player this dominant for a long time, probably not since Lemieux. To say he doesn't "deserve" the Hart is either supremely biased or just plain ignorant.


Draisaitl is good...but based off those stats above McDavid is #2 in the league...and better than everyone on the list, kind of seems like they are both as valuable to their team. Top 3 players in OPS goes Draisaitl Pasta...v close together...and then McDavid.
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May 31, 2020 at 2:37 p.m.
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So i remember you CD282, yeah @BuFfaLOFaN he argues with me about this before, and he doesnt actually do any research.

"His contribution to team GF was the highest in the NHL" - that is known as Points Share: Mcdavid had a higher OPS of 10.8 than Drai's of 10.4 (close, but no cigar).
Drai also again played an average of nearly 72% of the time with Mcdavid (63% 5on5 and 95% PP time) vs Eichel who had NOBODY and MacKinnon who was missing Rantanen and Landescog for 15+ games each (vs Mcdavids 8)

MOST IMPORTANT: Everyone is entitle to their own opinion (even you CD282!!!), but you can not come on here and make stuff up to try to convince people you are right.


More BS from you.

Leon Draisaitl with McDavid at 5v5: 553:21
Leon Draisaitl w/o McDavid at 5v5: 610:24
Time with McDavid as a percentage of total: 47.5%
You said 63%. Liar.

http://naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=n&team=EDM&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2019-10-02&td=2020-04-04&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8478402&p2=8477934&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0

Also, McKinnon spent 614:34 with Landeskog (57.1%) at 5v5 and 490:52 with Rantanen (45.7%). That's significant, they were his most common linemates.

http://naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&stdoi=std&rate=n&v=t&playerid=8477492
May 31, 2020 at 4:44 p.m.
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More BS from you.

Leon Draisaitl with McDavid at 5v5: 553:21
Leon Draisaitl w/o McDavid at 5v5: 610:24
Time with McDavid as a percentage of total: 47.5%
You said 63%. Liar.

http://naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=n&team=EDM&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2019-10-02&td=2020-04-04&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8478402&p2=8477934&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0

Also, McKinnon spent 614:34 with Landeskog (57.1%) at 5v5 and 490:52 with Rantanen (45.7%). That's significant, they were his most common linemates.

http://naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&stdoi=std&rate=n&v=t&playerid=8477492


Nope. You are the liar, and me @CatmanV and @BuFfaLOFaN can both see it rn.
Also dont call me a liar, I never called you a lier, I just pointed out that you dont use facts in your arguments (which is true) and you dont NEEEEED to keep convincing people of your opinions (which are not usually correct)
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May 31, 2020 at 5:32 p.m.
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laugh

I literally posted links to the facts. And it's not the first time I've given you this information, you're purposely lying about it.

Loser.


Wow @BuFfaLOFaN @CatmanV @McGruff @bhavikp27 this guy is back frown i really was hoping he would be able to have a mature discussion, but evidently not again lol
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May 31, 2020 at 11:59 p.m.
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Nope. You are the liar, and me @CatmanV and @BuFfaLOFaN can both see it rn.
Also dont call me a liar, I never called you a lier, I just pointed out that you dont use facts in your arguments (which is true) and you dont NEEEEED to keep convincing people of your opinions (which are not usually correct)


Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Wow @BuFfaLOFaN @CatmanV @McGruff @bhavikp27 this guy is back frown i really was hoping he would be able to have a mature discussion, but evidently not again lol


Bro that’s so annoying like he really won’t learn
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