I dont personally have interest in Lundell, I dont think he's NHL ready either

Yeah I know facts and stats, who listens to those ever. We need to judge players on feelings and personal bias

LOL...

Said the Sabres fan that also wants Sean Monahan + + for an unsigned Max Domi and a bunch of spare parts.

Pot.... Meet Kettle.

Domi is better. I'll keep Domi. Not even close to pot meet kettle. Funny hearing Flames fans talk about how Monahan needs Gaudreau, Gaudreau had a bad year and Monahan's stats fell off a cliff proving flames fans right, but then faced with reality they all cry and complain

no, buffalo put him with dahlin.

you dont get to invent things

he played in all 20 playoff games and all 82 regular season games in 2017-18

you know people can just look this stuff up right?

Rubbish.

The ignore list grows, yet again.

Good luck with your one sided takes.

buffalo had 9 NHL defensemen, 5 of whom were right handed. They got stuck into a rotation until it was finally decided to waive bogosian and trade scandella. we also played 7 defense a lot.

miller's most common d partner was dahlin, and he played on the 2nd pp unit

LOL imagine putting someone on the ignore list
Edit: because they used stats that went against your narrative

I wouldn't find a Couturier like player flashy as well. You can think he's not NHL ready all you want but if dozens of scouts say he can make the jump right away then there is a good chance he can. One of the main issues the Sabres have is their PK and Lundell fixes that hole nicely. He is not projected to be a top line talent but he is expected to be an NHL player for a very long time with a good chance at the 2nd line role. Last time I checked Buffalo wasn't in the market for a 1C and really needs more 2-way talent.

I think Finnish players get over rated too much. I dont think Liiga is comparable to the SHL, SHL is the better league. They why hyped Finns flame out. I dont trust them right now, and would develop him in the A if they drafted him, but I would also not take Lundell top 10

Dumb Flames fans say Monahan needs Gaudreau. It's more like Monahan and Gaudreau have great synergy so they always play together, when one plays bad so does the other. Obviously Gaudreau is the more relevant player but that doesn't make Monahan bad by any means. When Sean came into the league he played without Gaudreau for the first 2 years of his career and 53 goals and 43 assists.

its like eichel and reinhart. they are fine apart, but both are better together

To each their own I guess. But to say Finns fade out is a poor analysis. Heinola looked solid in the NHL just this year, Heiskanen turned out quite well, Valimaki is going to be a stud, Ihear Laine is pretty good too, and what about Rantanen? Sure there are players like Kotkaniemi and Puljujarvi who probably went to high, and Kakko had a rough year. However those guys were taken for their offensive prowess, which is not what people say about Lundell.

mtl takes that and runs

There are other facts and stats too, not just those ones, that suggest other wise. Domi is not better than Monahan just because one chart says so. Domi is a 50 point forward. Monahan, who's stats "fell off a cliff"this year, was still on pace for 56. Monahan has the 15th most goals scored out of any forward in the entire NHL the last 5 seasons. Domi doesn't even crack the top 100. Your chart doesn't amount to a hill of beans compared to that FACT and STAT.

I'm not inventing things. He had 17 minutes of ice per night, that is not how much ice time a top pairing Dman gets. that is how much ice time bottom pairing Dman gets. He was also healthy scratched 18 times. Top pairing Dmen don't get healthy scratched 18 times lol.

its been explained to you what happened, you are simply ignoring it.

Ah yes, the Sabres chose to sit out their "top pairing" dman Miller so that the great Zach Bogosian could get some ice time too. Gotcha.

I never said miller was a top pairing defensemen.

But yes, with 5 healthy rhd, there was a bit of a rotation and also, playing 7 defensemen, everyone's minutes went down


But around January, miller settled in with dahlin and they played well.

Fair enough.

I like Miller BTW. I was really hoping with Buffalos log jam at RHD last year, and his under utilization to that point, that the Flames would be able to scoop him up as we had lots of injures and a lack of RHD, plus with Hamonic and probably Brodie going UFA, he had term left too so it wasn't just a rental.

Flames ended up renting Gustafson and Forbort though. I'd rather have had Miller TBH.

They clearly didn't expect to make the jokiharju trade (or for him to make the team), they were trying to trade ristolianen, and bogosian is hurt.

then jokiharju made the team, nothing happened with ristolainen and bogosian called their bluff (and they didn't move scandella, which after they did montour played on the left)

do you really think people cant look your "facts" up. Monahan isnt top 15 in the last 5 years in goals or points:
https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/last-5-nhl-seasons-players-stats.html
he has also played nearly 200 games more than Domi. Domi is scoring .67 compared to .76 ppg so Monahan has a slight edge there, but Monahan has 121 PP points or 30% of his points Domi has 54 PP points or 21% of his total points, including only 10 goals or only 12% of Domi's career goals vs 57 Goals for Monahan, or again, 30% of his career goals. Monahan also averages about 30 seconds more per game on the PP. Monahan has played with much better linemates, specifically over the last 2 years, but for his career as well.

this roster mismanagement by Botterill also cost them Pilut, cost them Montours RFA year (playing his off hand), cost them a look at borgen and ended up making him look foolish after scandella was traded for a lot more by montreal weeks after he traded him.

Monahan has 172 goals in the NHL in the last 5 seasons, good for 15th among all forwards.

NHL Stats

EDIT: That's the last 6 seasons, since 2014/15.