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Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 13, 2020
Published: Jul. 13, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
2$950,000
2$1,500,000
3$4,500,000
3$2,700,000
2$1,500,000
2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
6$5,500,000
5$5,500,000
7$6,750,000
2$1,400,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Drysdale, Jamie
3$925,000
Holtx, Alexander
3$925,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Miller, Colin
  2. 2020 1st round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Domi, Max [RFA Rights]
  2. Fairbrother, Gianni [Reserve List]
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (STL)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (MTL)
2.
MTL
  1. Korczak, Kaedan
  2. 2022 1st round pick (VGK)
VGK
    Jeff Petry
    3.
    MTL
    1. 2021 2nd round pick (WSH)
    WSH
      Joel Armia
      4.
      MTL
      ANA
      1. Mete, Victor [RFA Rights]
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      Seattle expansion selection
      5.
      MTL
      1. 2022 6th round pick (FLA)
      Buyouts
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      2020
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      2021
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      2022
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      22$81,500,000$72,440,537$597,561$1,175,000$9,059,463
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
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      $5,500,000$5,500,000
      LW, RW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
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      $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
      C
      UFA - 1
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      $925,000$925,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
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      $5,500,000$5,500,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
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      $4,500,000$4,500,000
      C
      UFA - 1
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      $6,750,000$6,750,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 6
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      $1,500,000$1,500,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 2
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      $5,500,000$5,500,000
      C
      UFA - 6
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      $880,833$880,833
      RW, LW
      RFA - 2
      $1,400,000$1,400,000
      C, LW, RW
      UFA - 1
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      $1,000,000$1,000,000
      C
      UFA - 1
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      $3,400,000$3,400,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
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      $2,700,000$2,700,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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      $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
      LD
      RFA - 1
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      $7,857,143$7,857,143
      RD
      UFA - 5
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      $10,500,000$10,500,000
      G
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $1,750,000$1,750,000
      LD/RD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Drysdale, Jamie
      $925,000$925,000
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $880,833$880,833
      G
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $950,000$950,000
      RD
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
      $3,875,000$3,875,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $1,500,000$1,500,000
      RD
      UFA - 1

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      Jul. 13, 2020 at 10:20 p.m.
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      Not bad at all, except i doubt KK will cost that much & I highly doubt Paquette could play over Lehkonen
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      Jul. 13, 2020 at 10:30 p.m.
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      Quoting: SevenLeg
      Not bad at all, except i doubt KK will cost that much & I highly doubt Paquette could play over Lehkonen


      Paquette bring more grit but they would probably alternate if the team is healthy but lehkonen would move up and down the line up to fill in where injuries occur. And i expect Kotkaniemi to have a very good season next year. Something between 50-60 point and giving him a 3 years at that cost might be a real bargain in the second and third year. H
      Jul. 13, 2020 at 10:45 p.m.
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      youd be better off trading lehkonen than having him as the 13th forward. maybe get someone to play ld.
      Jul. 13, 2020 at 10:48 p.m.
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      Sabres are not giving 8 o/a and a D for Domi. If you want a D also we can offer the 2021 first along with it
      Jul. 13, 2020 at 10:58 p.m.
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      Quoting: dzmets
      Sabres are not giving 8 o/a and a D for Domi. If you want a D also we can offer the 2021 first along with it

      Colin Miller value it at is lowest and Montreal gave up a solid prospect and 2 high pick. That trade is more then fair value. Buffalo is the team who get the best players in that deal and by far.
      Jul. 13, 2020 at 11:09 p.m.
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      Quoting: Pharow
      Colin Miller value it at is lowest and Montreal gave up a solid prospect and 2 high pick. That trade is more then fair value. Buffalo is the team who get the best players in that deal and by far.


      The best piece in the deal is 8 o/a. If we hadn't missed the playoffs for a decade then we wouldn't consider moving the pick for anything less than an elite player.
      Jul. 13, 2020 at 11:13 p.m.
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      Quoting: dzmets
      The best piece in the deal is 8 o/a. If we hadn't missed the playoffs for a decade then we wouldn't consider moving the pick for anything less than an elite player.


      The best pieces could be that pick or it could be Alexander Nylander or Casey Mittelsatd but at the moment Domi is the best players and by far. He is a consistent 50 point players that have been playing without any real good players for most of is career. The only year he had consistent winger he posted a very great season.
      Jul. 14, 2020 at 7:17 a.m.
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      Quoting: Pharow
      The best pieces could be that pick or it could be Alexander Nylander or Casey Mittelsatd but at the moment Domi is the best players and by far. He is a consistent 50 point players that have been playing without any real good players for most of is career. The only year he had consistent winger he posted a very great season.


      Of course any draft pick has more risk associated with it than a player with years played in the league, but it also has the higher reward. 8 o/a could be Casey Middlestadt or Alex Nylander. It could also be Zach Werenski or Sean Couturier in which case you get a much better player than Domi. 1st o/a could end up being Nail Yakupov but that doesn't mean the value for the pick isn't extremely high. Any good GM.places a minimum or maximum value on any asset and then no matter how much they like one particular player or asset they do not go outside of that range when acquiring.ir moving that asset. Domi for 8o/a to me is right at that tipping point. Fair value to me is Domi and Montreals second or Mete for 8 o/a. Miller is worth more to me than a B prospect and a third round pick. I have him on my first pair with Dahlin as he had the most success playing with him and there games compliment each other well
      Jul. 14, 2020 at 11:09 a.m.
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      Quoting: dzmets
      Of course any draft pick has more risk associated with it than a player with years played in the league, but it also has the higher reward. 8 o/a could be Casey Middlestadt or Alex Nylander. It could also be Zach Werenski or Sean Couturier in which case you get a much better player than Domi. 1st o/a could end up being Nail Yakupov but that doesn't mean the value for the pick isn't extremely high. Any good GM.places a minimum or maximum value on any asset and then no matter how much they like one particular player or asset they do not go outside of that range when acquiring.ir moving that asset. Domi for 8o/a to me is right at that tipping point. Fair value to me is Domi and Montreals second or Mete for 8 o/a. Miller is worth more to me than a B prospect and a third round pick. I have him on my first pair with Dahlin as he had the most success playing with him and there games compliment each other well


      So miller who was acquired after setting career high in the prior 2 year for a second round pick and a 5th rounder, with 3 years on is deal is worth more today with one less year on is deal and a after a poor and terrible season. Colin miller is worth nothing at the moment and is salary is a big concern moving forward. With Montour in need of a extension and ristolainen on the right he look like the odds man. Have you heard Eichel comment lately, he doesn’t want to win in three or four year , he want to compete now so that 8th overall selection won’t be in Buffalo for at least 2 or 3 more season. You haven’t take that for account. Domi have been a top 3 scoring players each year on is respective team, he would instantly make Buffalo a better team. If colin Miller is worth more then a third round and a b prospect Domi is worth more then a 8th overall pick.
      Jul. 14, 2020 at 12:14 p.m.
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      So miller who was acquired after setting career high in the prior 2 year for a second round pick and a 5th rounder, with 3 years on is deal is worth more today with one less year on is deal and a after a poor and terrible season. Colin miller is worth nothing at the moment and is salary is a big concern moving forward. With Montour in need of a extension and ristolainen on the right he look like the odds man. Have you heard Eichel comment lately, he doesn’t want to win in three or four year , he want to compete now so that 8th overall selection won’t be in Buffalo for at least 2 or 3 more season. You haven’t take that for account. Domi have been a top 3 scoring players each year on is respective team, he would instantly make Buffalo a better team. If colin Miller is worth more then a third round and a b prospect Domi is worth more then a 8th overall pick.


      It is there worth to the teams you are proposing the trade too. The Sabres have 3 LD prospects that would be ahead of fairbrother in the organization right now so he adds little value to the Sabres would rather have another 3rd round pick instead. Colin Miller was moved by Vegas to free up cap space and they were willing to accept under his value because they needed that relief. The Sabres do not have cap constraints that would be forcing them to move this player and he will be in their top 4 this season. The last GM was fired largely for how the D core was handled last year. He dictated to the coach which D men played because he was trying to show case them for trades but never pulled the trigger because he overvalued them. If you dont feel Miller is worth the ask leave him out of the deal. Take out the two third round picks and fairbrother and add montreals 2nd, buffalo takes out miller
      Jul. 14, 2020 at 12:16 p.m.
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      Quoting: dzmets
      It is there worth to the teams you are proposing the trade too. The Sabres have 3 LD prospects that would be ahead of fairbrother in the organization right now so he adds little value to the Sabres would rather have another 3rd round pick instead. Colin Miller was moved by Vegas to free up cap space and they were willing to accept under his value because they needed that relief. The Sabres do not have cap constraints that would be forcing them to move this player and he will be in their top 4 this season. The last GM was fired largely for how the D core was handled last year. He dictated to the coach which D men played because he was trying to show case them for trades but never pulled the trigger because he overvalued them. If you dont feel Miller is worth the ask leave him out of the deal. Take out the two third round picks and fairbrother and add montreals 2nd, buffalo takes out miller


      Ahahahahhahahwhahw you are delirious don’t ever reply on my post again if you are to post bullcrap
      Jul. 14, 2020 at 12:17 p.m.
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      Quoting: Pharow
      Ahahahahhahahwhahw you are delirious don’t ever reply on my post again if you are to post bullcrap


      What do feel Miller value is??
      Jul. 14, 2020 at 12:19 p.m.
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      oh no not again.

      Miller's value has significantly plummeted and he'll probably be selected by Seattle no matter where he goes, which hurts his value further.
      Jul. 14, 2020 at 1:27 p.m.
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      Quoting: dzmets
      What do feel Miller value is??
      sami vatanen was traded for a fourth round pick last deadline, Erik Gustafson a third rounder, mike green a conditional 4th rounder, Dylan Demelo a third round pick, and players like Brandon Dillon or Alec martinez as fetch a second rounder but where much more use then miller. Actually miller never play more than 19:39 minutes average a season that a fourth or fifth defenseman on most team so there no justification that would make him worth a second round pick at the moment. He just came off a terrible season and carry a big avv against the cap. He was averaging just over 17 minutes a night on a very poor Sabres defensive squad so a third round pick is already a huge return considering those fact
      Jul. 14, 2020 at 1:40 p.m.
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      Quoting: Pharow
      sami vatanen was traded for a fourth round pick last deadline, Erik Gustafson a third rounder, mike green a conditional 4th rounder, Dylan Demelo a third round pick, and players like Brandon Dillon or Alec martinez as fetch a second rounder but where much more use then miller. Actually miller never play more than 19:39 minutes average a season that a fourth or fifth defenseman on most team so there no justification that would make him worth a second round pick at the moment. He just came off a terrible season and carry a big avv against the cap. He was averaging just over 17 minutes a night on a very poor Sabres defensive squad so a third round pick is already a huge return considering those fact


      So your proposed value for 8 o/a was Domi, fairbrother and St Louis 2nd. Doesn't that equal Domi and Montreal 2nd for 8 o/a
      Jul. 14, 2020 at 1:57 p.m.
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      So your proposed value for 8 o/a was Domi, fairbrother and St Louis 2nd. Doesn't that equal Domi and Montreal 2nd for 8 o/a


      There probably something that could be work around that! I am not Bergevin but Montreal have a great farm system and Buffalo could very use a guy like Ylonen or Cam Hillis or Jacob Olofsson instead of a higher second round pick that will be in the Nhl maybe in 4 or 5 season. Buffalo is in a urgency if they keep loosing Eichel will walk in free agency just like Tavares did and that would be catastrophic for Buffalo. They are in need of players that are close to contributing in Nhl or impact players and since they haven’t been a very good scounting team ( they selected in the top ten 9 years in a row and haven’t have much success) they are maybe better to acquire established player then selected another Nylander or Mittelsatd. And they haven’t had much success in later round havibg only Olofsson in their line up that was drafted after the first round over the past 9 years.
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      Jul. 14, 2020 at 2:52 p.m.
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      There probably something that could be work around that! I am not Bergevin but Montreal have a great farm system and Buffalo could very use a guy like Ylonen or Cam Hillis or Jacob Olofsson instead of a higher second round pick that will be in the Nhl maybe in 4 or 5 season. Buffalo is in a urgency if they keep loosing Eichel will walk in free agency just like Tavares did and that would be catastrophic for Buffalo. They are in need of players that are close to contributing in Nhl or impact players and since they haven’t been a very good scounting team ( they selected in the top ten 9 years in a row and haven’t have much success) they are maybe better to acquire established player then selected another Nylander or Mittelsatd. And they haven’t had much success in later round havibg only Olofsson in their line up that was drafted after the first round over the past 9 years.


      I could see them making the deal for Domi and one of those prospects
      Jul. 14, 2020 at 3:19 p.m.
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      Quoting: dzmets
      I could see them making the deal for Domi and one of those prospects


      Depending on what players are available when they talk, this could be a option. If A players that Buffalo really like is still available on their list at number 8 they probably doesnt make this trade but if they feel like their guy aren’t there no more adding a players like Domi who is entering is prime could be a great option for them. With a solid prospect Like Ylonen or Jacobson they would probably listen to that but that pure speculation. And since they have fired half of their scouting team they might want to go with that avenue.
       
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