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Created by: BurnEmUp

Team: 2020-21 Calgary Flames

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 30, 2020

Published: Jul. 30, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Dube and Kylington are just breaking into the league, they take the roster spots left behind by the departure of Cirelli and Cernak. Pelletier and the 1st added to compensate for the discrepancy in value.

2nd proposal is along the same lines but just for Cirelli

3rd one the Flames take Johnson too if he can be convinced to waive and get an opportunity in the Flames top 6. Lowered the pick compensation because taking on the TJ contract carries risk and is expensive.

I know in a perfect world Tampa would rather keep all their players, but the flat cap is going to take a bite out of their roster.

The Flames need another good two way top 6 C, and a top 4 right handed Dman, so those two RFA's would really be a fit in Calgary.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Mangiapane, Andrew	3	$2,250,000
Gawdin, Glenn	1	$787,500
Cernak, Erik	3	$3,000,000
Cirelli, Anthony	5	$5,000,000

Trades

CGY

Cernak, Erik [RFA Rights]
Cirelli, Anthony [RFA Rights]

TBL

Dubé, Dillon
Kylington, Oliver [RFA Rights]
Pelletier, Jakob
2020 1st round pick (CGY)

CGY

1. Anthony Cirelli

TBL

1. Dillon Dube
2. 2020 1st round pick

CGY

1. Anthony Cirelli
2. Erik Cernak
3. Tyler Johnson

If Johnson is willing to waive

TBL

1. Dillon Dube
2. Jakob Pelletier
3. Oliver Kylington
4. 2020 2nd round pick (CGY)

I lowered the 1st to a 2nd here because Johnson was added

Buyouts

Troy Brouwer: $1,500,000
Michael Stone: $1,166,667

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
19	$81,500,000	$68,044,166	$0	$850,000	$13,455,834

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Gaudreau, Johnny $6,750,000$6,750,000 LW UFA - 2	Monahan, Sean $6,375,000$6,375,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Lindholm, Elias $4,850,000$4,850,000 C, RW UFA - 4
Mangiapane, Andrew $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Cirelli, Anthony $5,000,000$5,000,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Tkachuk, Matthew $7,000,000$7,000,000 RW UFA - 2
Bennett, Sam $2,550,000$2,550,000 C UFA - 1	Backlund, Mikael $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NTC UFA - 4	Phillips, Matthew $733,333$733,333 RW, C UFA - 1
Lucic, Milan $5,250,000$5,250,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 3	Ryan, Derek $3,125,000$3,125,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Gawdin, Glenn $787,500$787,500 C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Giordano, Mark $3,375,000$3,375,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Andersson, Rasmus $4,550,000$4,550,000 RD UFA - 6	Rittich, David $1,375,000$1,375,000 G UFA - 1
Hanifin, Noah $1,237,500$1,237,500 LD UFA - 4	Cernak, Erik $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD UFA - 3
Välimäki, Juuso $894,166$894,166 ($425,000$425K) LD RFA - 1	Mackey, Connor $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) LD UFA - 1

Jul. 30, 2020 at 6:23 p.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Interesting, as a fan of both teams I'm conflicted. Also Johnson doesn't have negative value.

Jul. 30, 2020 at 6:50 p.m.

Hedman77

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How does Tyler Johnson turn a 1st into a 2nd?

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Jul. 30, 2020 at 7:11 p.m.

BurnEmUp

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Interesting, as a fan of both teams I'm conflicted. Also Johnson doesn't have negative value.

Quoting: Hedman77

How does Tyler Johnson turn a 1st into a 2nd?

OK, so if the proposal is somewhat palatable without Johnson, what is Johnson's worth that needs to be added?

I agree he doesn't have negative value, I think he'd do well in a top 6 role again, but I don't think his value will be all that high.

Jul. 30, 2020 at 7:27 p.m.

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Quoting: BurnEmUp

I think he could get a 2nd by himself.
So the first trade, plus Johnson for a 2nd

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Jul. 30, 2020 at 7:30 p.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: Hedman77

How does Tyler Johnson turn a 1st into a 2nd?

What is your view on the original offer? Dube was very good in training camp as well as the exhibition game and looks like he has the tools for a top 6 winger role. I personally think its a pretty solid offer for both sides.

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Jul. 30, 2020 at 7:31 p.m.

BurnEmUp

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Quoting: Hedman77

I think he could get a 2nd by himself.
So the first trade, plus Johnson for a 2nd

Kind of cleans the Flames out of draft picks for 2020, it'd be better if they could make it a 2021 2nd. But those are all pieces the Flames could use obviously, and the two main pieces are young so a loss of picks is worth for a team trying to win now.

Jul. 30, 2020 at 8:09 p.m.

Xqb15

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3rd trade is a definite no from TBL as others have said Johnson doesn’t have negative value.

1st trade is also a definite no but maybe something to build on.

The 2nd is closest in value, and probably a lot depends on where the pick is. My gut tells me TBL still say no but again maybe something to build on.

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Jul. 30, 2020 at 8:46 p.m.

BurnEmUp

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Quoting: Xqb15

That's alright by me, the biggest piece I want is Cirelli anyways.

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Jul. 30, 2020 at 9:28 p.m.

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Quoting: Xqb15

Agreed on everything.
I think the Lightning would want a player more proven than Dube, and I'm not sure Calgary is willing to give up (or we can afford) a player like that.

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Jul. 31, 2020 at 9:48 a.m.

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Dont want to give up Dube this early.
He's progressing so well, he'll be a top 6 stable forward here for years to come.

Jul. 31, 2020 at 10:22 a.m.

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BurnEmUp

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Quoting: royle9

Dont want to give up Dube this early.
He's progressing so well, he'll be a top 6 stable forward here for years to come.

True, but so will Cirelli who's just turned 23 this month.

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