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If CGY fails again - BLOW IT UP

Created by: Random2152
Team: 2020-21 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 30, 2020
Published: Jul. 31, 2020
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So I heard you like blockbuster trades...
I am doing this off the top of my head. Need help on the value here but I do think there might be something that makes sense for the two teams in here somewhere.

Contracts and depth I am just guessing on.
The colorado trade doesn't nessisarily need to go to Colorado.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,400,000
2$875,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$4,500,000
1$800,000
1$750,000
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Alnefelt, Hugo [Reserve List]
  2. Cajkovic, Maxim [Reserve List]
  3. Gourde, Yanni
  4. Guttman, Cole [Reserve List]
  5. Johnson, Tyler
  6. Point, Brayden
  7. 2021 2nd round pick (TBL)
TBL
  1. Gaudreau, Johnny ($3,375,000 retained)
  2. Jankowski, Mark [RFA Rights]
  3. Monahan, Sean
  4. 2021 5th round pick (CGY)
2.
CGY
  1. 2021 5th round pick (TBL)
Buyouts
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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Logo of the TBL
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$72,343,332$0$882,500$9,156,668
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, C, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$5,166,666$5,166,666
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,550,000$2,550,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
$800,000$800,000
C
UFA
$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,375,000$3,375,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,375,000$1,375,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$925,000$925,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD
RFA - 1
$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RD
RFA - 1

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Jul. 31, 2020 at 3:12 p.m.
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Edited Jul. 31, 2020 at 3:19 p.m.
They wont blow it up on a loss to WPG. Thats probably one of the toughest match ups in the Play-In
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Jul. 31, 2020 at 3:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
They wont blow it up on a loss to WPG. Thats probably one of the toughest match ups in the Play-In


What if Gaudreau disappears like he did against COL last year?

+ The TB trade isn't really a "blow it up", given that Brayden Point is coming back in the deal. Brayden Point is getting better every season, and is already better than Monahan.

I don't know much at all about the 3 prospects in the deal, so can't speak to that value.

I would agree with you that CGY isn't getting full value for Gaudreau in this deal for sure, and if that's the issue, then no argument here.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.
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What if Gaudreau disappears like he did against COL last year?

+ The TB trade isn't really a "blow it up", given that Brayden Point is coming back in the deal. Brayden Point is getting better every season, and is already better than Monahan.

I don't know much at all about the 3 prospects in the deal, so can't speak to that value.

I would agree with you that CGY isn't getting full value for Gaudreau in this deal for sure, and if that's the issue, then no argument here.


I wasnt exactly referring to the deal as much as the title
Jul. 31, 2020 at 4:28 p.m.
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COL laughs and laughs and laughs. No seriously they laugh.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 4:48 p.m.
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COL laughs and laughs and laughs. No seriously they laugh.


So not only did you not read the desc, you completely missed the point of the AGM. I gotta say I'm impressed
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Jul. 31, 2020 at 5:09 p.m.
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COL laughs and laughs and laughs. No seriously they laugh.


Laugh as they walk away with a fleece? Why wpuld you not take a high end 3C for a 5th?
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Jul. 31, 2020 at 5:46 p.m.
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Laugh as they walk away with a fleece? Why wpuld you not take a high end 3C for a 5th?

Because the Avs already have a high end 3C and have an ass load of bottom 6 guys including former 1st rd picks that are pushing into the NHL. Pretty much the last thing on the planet the Avs are trading for is a bottom 6 guy. Oh wait there is a bottom 6 guy that makes $3M+. Like I said laugh and pass.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 5:48 p.m.
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So not only did you not read the desc, you completely missed the point of the AGM. I gotta say I'm impressed


I’m impressed that you think I missed the point and didn’t read you the description. Hell you must be omniscient.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 5:55 p.m.
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Because the Avs already have a high end 3C and have an ass load of bottom 6 guys including former 1st rd picks that are pushing into the NHL. Pretty much the last thing on the planet the Avs are trading for is a bottom 6 guy. Oh wait there is a bottom 6 guy that makes $3M+. Like I said laugh and pass.


Then why don't you just explain it like this the first time instead of being a jerk about it?

The worst thing about this site is the people that come in and do their whole "team A laughs" schtick without explaining why, especially when the value in a trade isn't the problem, it's just that the trade isn't a fit. It's actually against the forum rules now to do that....probably because it just incites petty bickering.
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Jul. 31, 2020 at 5:55 p.m.
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Because the Avs already have a high end 3C and have an ass load of bottom 6 guys including former 1st rd picks that are pushing into the NHL. Pretty much the last thing on the planet the Avs are trading for is a bottom 6 guy. Oh wait there is a bottom 6 guy that makes $3M+. Like I said laugh and pass.


So your logic dictates that you would rather play inferior and unproven players than a proven asset at a super cheap price? Yeah sure man. Flames will keep him at that price.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 6:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
So your logic dictates that you would rather play inferior and unproven players than a proven asset at a super cheap price? Yeah sure man. Flames will keep him at that price.


No logic dictates good teams don’t spend assets to improve their bottom 6 when they have invested in it in draft picks. So yeah will pass.
Jul. 31, 2020 at 6:11 p.m.
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Then why don't you just explain it like this the first time instead of being a jerk about it?

The worst thing about this site is the people that come in and do their whole "team A laughs" schtick without explaining why, especially when the value in a trade isn't the problem, it's just that the trade isn't a fit. It's actually against the forum rules now to do that....probably because it just incites petty bickering.


Well actually I was going to post something different but I was at work got side tracked clicked submit. But if you’re going to post trades to team at least have some idea of whom you are trading too not just because it fits for one team. But In the spirit of promoting a more positive experience I apologize for my terse answer. It doesn’t change the fact the Avs have zero interest in adding an expensive bottom 6 guy though.
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