Byram and Newhook are valuable prospects, but neither has played a single game in the league and aren't likely to do that in a year. It's amazing that people consider two prospects outside NHL being worth more than an elite asset you don't really ever get via trade...just how high the junior hype can get, I wonder...

Byram is going to be playing with the Avs next season. In a vacuum do you make the trade, probably, but you are just choosing to ignore everything Avs fan are saying here. Kadri isn’t mincemeat as your 2C. The salary cap has serious considerations especially acquiring an elite talent. How’s it working for Toronto having 2 elite C making $11M each? Also when is COL ever going to have the 4th overall pick, and they suppose to give away 2 guys that will be on elc in the case of Byram from 20-21 through 22-23 and Newhook from 21-22 through 23-24 at which time MacKinnon is also going to get a monster extension.

All other pieces are worth a 3rd? In what convoluted part of the thread are the other pieces worth 3rds?

I've seen the notion of the potential cap crunch coming and I do accept that a reason to reject this trade. There's nothing to discuss in this point.

Regardless there have been COL fans in favor of this sort of exchange. But there isn't a single proposal here including Kadri, Byram and Newhook. Only two out of those three.

MacKinnon's extension will come in due time, but wouldn't COL (or frankly any team) like to have a center core of MacKinnon, Barkov, and Kadri? It just doesn't get any better than that.

Leafs are an example of that it is theoretically possible to uphold such depth - and since Sakic isn't as dumb as Dubas with the contracts and how big they tend to get, I do think there's a way through this.

The trade in that comment you replied to was Barkov for Byram+Compher+Cole+1st+2nd+random pick, right?

I went through Byram and that 1st before...

That leaves
Compher: worth a 3rd and maybe a small other asset. Mid to bottom-6 player, nothing groundbreaking.

Cole: next year he's a rental D-man with semi high cap. Absolutely worth a 3rd, max.

2021 2nd: probably the lowest pick of the entire draft, essentially the same as a 3rd rounder. Especially since 2021 is expected to be a weak draft.

Random pick...well it's random.

I totally agree with that thought it would be fantastic. But that cap call would be something painful especially thinking in consecutive years you would be giving out a monster deal to Makar, then to Barkov, then to MacKinnon. Honestly I would love to add Barkov, and the portion of the thread where it was centered around Byram and Kadri sure then we are talking.

FLA isn’t doing that I agree.

Some challenges would be there...but I don't think it's impossible. Would probably require not signing Landeskog though, which is a bummer. But if Newhook's not included, there's a replacement for the guy.

My stance though is that FLA requires 3 future assets for Barkov and two of them have to be of high value, or at least one, then a great roster player and then that 1st. I'd rather see a deal involving all of Byram+Newhook+1st and then assets leveling the cap (initial trade basically) but if that's impossible then we can drop Newhook and change him to Kadri, and then add another prospect in place of the guys that were involved just to even out the cap...

I don’t disagree with that. I was opposed to both Byram and Newhook.

Think that has been the issue with all Avs fans.

Sort of glad it's Avs fans though. I couldn't imagine what kind of clusterf*ck this post would've been if those prospects belonged to Habs for example. Wouldn't be too surprised if there were people saying that Byram alone is worth more than Barkov since he has only two years left...

I want ? I never did a Huberdeau trade, Never. We aren’t giving our top young players for Huberdeau. You’re just stupid at this point

Fine, I give you that.

Your direct quote was "for the right price we'll take him."

Unfortunately your right price is absolutely pathetic.

Domi + 9th OA to start is pretty good for Hubeardeau

And FLA laughs at this.

Your comments prompted me to ask about this in general. You can take part in the discussion if you will.

I saw, I’m just saying MTL won’t trade their top young players for Hubeardeau. And others offer from MTL won’t be enough to drag out Hubby from Florida. Just not good trade partners

Not trading their top prospect for Huberdeau or just not trading them in general? Because the latter part I can get, the first I absolutely can't.

Keep in mind that out of your top youngsters I asked for only one of them.

Right? Honestly I try to be as honest in evaluating Avs players as possible and not buy into their ‘our’ guy and worth more than their not. Newhook and Byram are the first two true prospects (obviously not counting guys that jumped right into the NHL) in forever the Avs had that can be difference makers that’s why I am always loathe on here to include them in any trade. I’ve maintained since Feb the Avs core for the next 5 years is/should be MacKinnon, Makar, Rantanen, Byram, Girard, Newhook and Landeskog more or less in that order. Any way it’s been a pleasure.

Good thing in MTL are their top prospect / young player are at every position of need Center : Suzuki Kotkaniemi RW : Caufield Ylönen LHD : Romanov Norlinder Struble G : Primeau
We don’t have LW prospect but Drouin Domi Lehkonen are all 25 yo ( Teasdale Pitlick are the only legit LW prospect ). RHD we have Fleury Juulsen Brook but none of them are blue chip prospect so we’ll need to keep those 3. If we trade Fleury and Juulsen Brook doesn’t become NHLer and Fleury become one, we’ll look stupid. Keep those 3 guys and they will battle for the 3RHD.