Ehh...would rather take Byram and change Newhook to someone else. I do believe Byram is the key asset to make this trade work.

How about just leaving out Newhook and Weegar? Add a lower pick/prospect from Colorado if needed.

As an Avs fan I would be willing to pay heavily for Barkov and try to find a way to sign him to an extension in 2021 already with 1 year left. Mackinnon/Barkov would be the new Crosby/Malkin. Pittsburgh have managed to be contenders for like 12+ years due to that duo, and only had to retool and fill out the roster around those two to stay competitive.

Newhook would 100% be included, since Barkov would take the 2C spot and thus Newhook would be expendable.

I'd be loathe to moving Byram as well as Newhook. If you want to include Weegar though maybe Timmins would be the logical piece going back to Florida. Newhook + Timmins + whatever middle 6ers/1st round picks you need to get it done.

You beat me to it

Imo that's a no. As explained in the trade detail, a TOP10, possibly TOP5 C in the league will garner a huge return, especially with an affordable contract. Byram+Compher+Cole+1st+2nd+random pick for Barkov is very close to a quantity for quality deal. I mean the only key asset coming from COL in this exchange is a rookie D without a single game under his belt. This is why I do believe there needs to be at least two remarkable assets going FLA's way. If it is not a prospect, then it must be a significant roster asset such as Kadri or Burakovsky for example.

Yeah I'd much rather just leave Weegar out of it if that means that we can exclude Newhook, especially if Timmins isn't in the trade either. Makar/Timmins/Johnson is fine on the right, no need for Weegar in that case.

Kadri and Burakovsky can be included instead of Newhook/Byram, no problem with that. In fact I think Kadri would be a logical trade piece here since he'd not be 2C any longer.

How about Kadri + Newhook + Compher + Cole + 1st + 2nd + minor prospect

I do appreciate that some would be willing to pay top price for Barkov because he deserves it.

But as I once said


I honestly don't see this deal without Byram being included. FLA absolutely needs a franchise D to boot, and Byram is the most logical option because I don't see COL moving either Makar or Girard after the contract he signed.

Kadri, Byram, etc. could work.

Swap Newhook to Byram and I'd do it. As mentioned, I don't see this deal happening without Byram whatsoever. He's the key asset here FLA needs, much more than these centers here.

I actually think Byram makes a lot of sense to be included. From Colorado's perspective we already have 2 PPQB's (Makar/Girard), and possibly 3 if Timmins establishes himself as expected. Graves also gives us a lot of flexibility if he can keep up his strong play in the playoffs. Byram is basically a luxury, but it's a nice luxury to have.

But at the same time Newhook makes sense as well, as with Barkov we don't need a 2C as much. Maybe we can roll with Mackinnon/Barkov/Newhook down the middle though, that would be pretty tremendous.

Between the two though I think it makes more sense to move Newhook though.

How about


Bowen Byram
Nazem Kadri
Ian Cole
Alex Beaucage
2020 1st round pick (COL)
2021 2nd round pick (COL)


Aleksander Barkov

So basically the initial trade with Newhook swapped to Kadri+Beaucage, and Compher and Weegar scrapped from it.

@Richard88 @moli92 I'd like to hear your opinions as well regarding the hypothetical update for the trade...

Byram + Kadri + Cole + Beaucage + 1st + 2nd for Barkov would work, I'm down for that. Would prefer if it was a 2021 1st though because we're REALLY going to need that ELC in 2022 when Barkov gets a raise.

There's no telling what kind of players is going your way as the 30th pick though...very unlikely that he'd make it in your roster in only two years. I mean for example Bowers was drafted 27th overall in 2017 and he still isn't a regular NHLer in 2021...

It's steep but if

It's steep but I guess if one is rich enough to buy a Ferrari then they will ultimately pay sticker price, lol.

This isn't even fair man, we wouldn't trade Kotkaniemi + 9th OA vs Huberdeau let alone Domi + Norlinder + Fleury …
We dont want Huberdeau, we have enough LW

Who in their right mind would say no to Huberdeau because they've "too many LWs"

He's the guy you absolutely take in and MAKE ROOM for a guy like him.

Unless you fancy an early summer break for the next half a century like the Leafs.

For the right price we will take him. We double overpaid here. Start a trade with 2 of Domi/Drouin/1st round pick, leave alone Romanov Suzuki Kotkaniemi Caufield

Here is the thing. Byram and Newhook (I know I’ve said it before) aren’t just the Avs top prospects they are 2 of the best prospects in the league and will still be on ELC’s after Barkov gets a huge raise and in the interim the difference between Kadri and Barkov isn’t worth those 2. Moli rightly points out that those ELC contracts are going to doubly important with big raises coming to Landeskog and a massive raise to Makar.

Habs get worst by dropping all these assets and only gaining Huberdeau.

Any trade involving Byram and 1st isn’t anything remotely resembling a quantity over quality.

So essentially you want a top player in the league but refrain from paying what is due. Gotcha. There's nothing worth to discuss with you.

"Only gaining Huberdeau"

You seem to be forgetting that he's one of the best in the league.

Actually yes it is, because only Byram is an actual quality asset in this trade. A very low first is valuable, but nothing groundbreaking here. All other pieces involved in that comments are worth like 3rd rounders each... Not really close to something that will land you a TOP10 C in the league.