Rielly Trade

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Kings decline. They don't get any cap relief for Carter in this trade and they don't get any picks. Toronto isn't going to qualify Rodrigues, so they could just sign him as a UFA if they wanted him (they don't). So really, they're retaining half of Carter's contract and giving up a 3rd (2nd if Clifford re-signs) and not getting anything useful in return.

No thanks.

Aug. 26, 2020 at 12:05 a.m.

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Also, Doughty and Muzzin didn't play together very much. They tried that experiment for one season and it didn't work out so well. Muzzin mostly played on the 2nd paring with Martinez. Doughty played with Mitchell, then Scuderi, then McNabb, then Forbort.

Aug. 26, 2020 at 12:15 a.m.

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

Carter isn't part of the Kings retool, Johnsson is a young skilled winger not quite as good as Kapanen but close, and is the key piece going back to LA. Could lower the 3rd. As you can see, Clifford was not resigned, so no upgrade to a 2nd.

Aug. 26, 2020 at 12:20 a.m.

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Quoting: pundystar

Carter is a veteran presence to mentor the kids. I agree he's on the trade block, but not if they have to retain 50% of his salary. Rebuilding teams look to acquire more draft picks, not send them away.

Johnsson isn't better than Iafallo or Kempe, so at best he's a 3LW on the Kings. They already have a logjam at bottom six forward, so they're not going to give up a draft pick to acquire a more expensive bottom six forward. If the Leafs are going to pass on re-signing Clifford, then the Kings can re-sign him themselves and now they have another bottom six LW that they didn't have to give up a pick for.

The Kings won't know that Toronto doesn't intend to re-sign Clifford when they make this trade, so they're not going to trade that pick.

Aug. 26, 2020 at 12:28 a.m.

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Why would Florida consider trading Ekblad for Rielly?

Aug. 26, 2020 at 12:34 a.m.

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

Fair point on the status of the Clifford pick , revised the deal. I disagree on Johnsson being classified as a bottom 6 fwd, he could slot in on a second line. Would keep him based on age over Carter, but looking for a veteran presence that has won the cup.

Aug. 26, 2020 at 12:36 a.m.

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Quoting: Miles_Togo

Why would Florida consider trading Ekblad for Rielly?

$2.5m reasons when the owner wants to cut payroll costs.

Aug. 26, 2020 at 12:37 a.m.

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Ottawa isn’t interested

Aug. 26, 2020 at 12:40 a.m.

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Ottawa isn’t interested

Read the description , Ottawa is a placeholder.

Aug. 26, 2020 at 12:42 a.m.

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Quoting: pundystar

I can't see LA trading Carter with retention. They don't need cap relief and he's valuable to the Kings for the same reason that you want him, experience. By the time the Kings need the space, his contract will be off the books. If a team wants to take on his full contract, they could have him for very little in return. If they have to retain half his salary, they'll just keep him.

I'm sure Johnsson could be a top-six guy somewhere, just not in LA. He's not going to unseat Iafallo or Kempe, so at best he's a 3LW for them.

Aug. 26, 2020 at 12:48 a.m.

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$2.5m reasons when the owner wants to cut payroll costs.

Rielly is owed 10M over the next 2 years. Ekblad is owed 11M.

Aug. 26, 2020 at 12:52 a.m.

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Fair, thanks for the dialogue.

Aug. 26, 2020 at 1:00 a.m.

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Quoting: Miles_Togo

Rielly is owed 10M over the next 2 years. Ekblad is owed 11M.

Reilly, $10m yes. Ekblad is owed $15m over the next two years plus another $20m in the subsequent three years between signing bonuses and base.

Aug. 26, 2020 at 1:08 a.m.

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Reilly, $10m yes. Ekblad is owed $15m over the next two years plus another $20m in the subsequent three years between signing bonuses and base.

Signing bonuses have already been paid out. There is a less than zero chance that Florida would trade Ekblad for Rielly - a significantly inferior D, and a LHD when their need is RHD, for only 1M in savings over the next 2 years. If they want to trade Ekblad every other team in the league beats that trade by a mile.

Aug. 26, 2020 at 1:18 a.m.

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Edited Aug. 26, 2020 at 1:29 a.m.

Quoting: Miles_Togo

Signing bonuses are paid July 1 of each year.

Aug. 26, 2020 at 1:19 a.m.

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Quoting: pundystar

Signing bonuses are paid July 1 of each year (2020 being the outlier due to the pandemic).

Signing bonuses were paid on July 1st 2020. There were a thousand news stories about it.

Aug. 26, 2020 at 1:34 a.m.

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Quoting: Miles_Togo

Signing bonuses were paid on July 1st 2020. There were a thousand news stories about it.

Over the remainder of the contract there's still $13m in bonuses to be paid.

Aug. 26, 2020 at 10:48 a.m.

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