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Matt Roy - Whats his price

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Team: 2020-21 Los Angeles Kings
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 4, 2020
Published: Sep. 4, 2020
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LAK fans, whats Matt Roys price? Is he availble?
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  1. Jost, Tyson [RFA Rights]
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  1. Roy, Matt
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2021
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16$81,500,000$55,659,697$0$2,550,000$25,840,303
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$2,425,000$2,425,000
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
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$2,636,364$2,636,364
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$775,000$775,000
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$1,133,333$1,133,333
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
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$725,000$725,000
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$700,000$700,000
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
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$858,333$858,333
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$875,000$875,000
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 3:32 p.m.
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It's difficult to project a return for Roy, because there's a difference between "fair value" and a trade that would actually be accepted. I think Roy for Jost is a relatively fair value trade, but the Kings aren't going to trade away a RHD and create a gap in their roster to bring back a (admittedly quality) player at a position in which they already have an abundance (bottom six wing). In order for the Kings to trade one of Roy or Walker, they'd need to be getting back a player that fulfills a greater roster need, or a fairly substantial over payment if not addressing a direct roster need.

The only position of greater need than RHD is top-six wing. The reason why Kapanen for Roy made sense is that Toronto is desperate for RHD and LA is desperate for a true top-six capable winger. I would agree that Kapanen for Roy isn't a "fair value" trade, and would have been an overpayment by the Leafs, but they're desperate for inexpensive RHD and in a position where an overpayment might have made sense. The $2.5 million in cap space they got to clear in that swap also wasn't nothing.

Colorado isn't in a dire cap crunch like Toronto is, so there's not as much incentive for them to overpay for Roy. I'm sure his low cap hit is welcome, but not necessary for the Avs. Landeskog and Burakovsky would be welcome additions to LA, but I don't see the Avs wanting to trade either. Obviously neither of those trades would be an even swap, and I don't think the Kings would want to trade any high round picks at this stage of the rebuild.

I don't see a Roy trade to the Avs happening.
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 3:37 p.m.
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Quoting: hanson493
guess it depends on what they do in this draft... mikey anderson might be a guy they like, they still have bjornfoot too. so i mean do you think they keep clague? they could always go 4-4-1and let lizotte be taken not like they dont have replacements for him. with a million centers on their roster and about to be another one.


Mikey Anderson is definitely someone the Kings like. He was very impressive in his 6 games at the end of the year. Games the Kings won as they went 7-0 to end the season. And they have extremely high expectations for Bjornfot, as shown by starting last season with him paired next to Drew Doughty, even if only for a few games. The best thing about those two players is they're both expansion draft exempt, so the Kings don't need to use a protection slot on them. I've said this in a couple of posts above as well, but yes. The Kings WILL go 4-4-1. They know Seattle won't take Dustin Brown or Jeff Carter, so they have no trouble exposing them, and there is no one else on the current roster of higher value than Roy, Walker or Clague.
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Sep. 4, 2020 at 5:33 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Not close. Right now Roy is more valuable to us than Timothy Liljegren is to you.


So your retort is a comparison of LAs 25 year old that is a bottom pairing dman anywhere else to a 22 year old that has a hand full of NHL games??? How making a realistic comparison... Roy is the same as Dermott or Holl.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 5:36 p.m.
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It's difficult to project a return for Roy, because there's a difference between "fair value" and a trade that would actually be accepted. I think Roy for Jost is a relatively fair value trade, but the Kings aren't going to trade away a RHD and create a gap in their roster to bring back a (admittedly quality) player at a position in which they already have an abundance (bottom six wing). In order for the Kings to trade one of Roy or Walker, they'd need to be getting back a player that fulfills a greater roster need, or a fairly substantial over payment if not addressing a direct roster need.

The only position of greater need than RHD is top-six wing. The reason why Kapanen for Roy made sense is that Toronto is desperate for RHD and LA is desperate for a true top-six capable winger. I would agree that Kapanen for Roy isn't a "fair value" trade, and would have been an overpayment by the Leafs, but they're desperate for inexpensive RHD and in a position where an overpayment might have made sense. The $2.5 million in cap space they got to clear in that swap also wasn't nothing.

Colorado isn't in a dire cap crunch like Toronto is, so there's not as much incentive for them to overpay for Roy. I'm sure his low cap hit is welcome, but not necessary for the Avs. Landeskog and Burakovsky would be welcome additions to LA, but I don't see the Avs wanting to trade either. Obviously neither of those trades would be an even swap, and I don't think the Kings would want to trade any high round picks at this stage of the rebuild.

I don't see a Roy trade to the Avs happening.


You need to go educate yourself on the Leafs cap situation and Dubas trade history... dire is a ridiculous take on them
Sep. 4, 2020 at 5:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Sean4417
You need to go educate yourself on the Leafs cap situation and Dubas trade history... dire is a ridiculous take on them


Not really. They're certainly better off now that Kapanen is gone. Good for him that he found a sucker to overpay.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 5:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Sean4417
So your retort is a comparison of LAs 25 year old that is a bottom pairing dman anywhere else to a 22 year old that has a hand full of NHL games??? How making a realistic comparison... Roy is the same as Dermott or Holl.


I think you're conflating overall player quality and a player's value to a team. There is no one in the Kings pipeline to replace Roy should he no longer be available. Swapping him for Dermott, while perhaps a fairly even trade in overall player quality, would greatly hurt the Kings roster, as it would open a gap on the right side of the roster, a position that is one of the most difficult to fill. Toronto fans should understand this more than anyone.
Sep. 4, 2020 at 5:57 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Not really. They're certainly better off now that Kapanen is gone. Good for him that he found a sucker to overpay.


Leafs right now have 6+ million in cap space and are taking offers on Andersen Johnsson Kerfoot... that could clear up another 6-10 million to sign Mikheyev Dermott and a new goalie and an RD. And Dubas has a good history of getting teams to retain salary in trades... again, dire is ridiculous
Sep. 4, 2020 at 6:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Sean4417
So your retort is a comparison of LAs 25 year old that is a bottom pairing dman anywhere else to a 22 year old that has a hand full of NHL games??? How making a realistic comparison... Roy is the same as Dermott or Holl.


The statement that Roy is the same as Dermott or Holl exposes how much, or I should say how little, weight we should put on your homer evaluations.
Oct. 13, 2020 at 1:51 p.m.
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10th overall pick 3 years ago for a 7th defender. No thanks bud
Oct. 14, 2020 at 12:24 p.m.
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Quoting: JToller1
10th overall pick 3 years ago for a 7th defender. No thanks bud


this post is over a month old.. cringe lurking move bud
as from your post, it seems you only care about draft positions and know nothing about the pieces involved.

https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/teamShotLocDefWi/1920/L.A/royxxma95/wrap
educate yourself.

Roys expected goals against while on the ice was 2.17 and the expected goals for was 2.85 (playing for a bottom 5 team in LA)

For comparison, Makar was 2.31 xgoals against and 2.63 xgoals for
Girard was 2.40 xgoals against and 2.62 xgoals for
^ all while playing for a top 5 team in COL

https://hockeyviz.com/player/girarsa98/COL/1920
https://hockeyviz.com/player/makarca98/COL/1920
 
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