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Created by: Grievous

Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 17, 2020

Published: Sep. 19, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Rumours are circulating regarding OEL to Edm for Nurse as the basis of a trade. OEL is linked to Edm's coaching staff and international success with Larsson. This wouldn't be ideal for Edmonton due to long-term Cap impacts, but this is an exercise to see how this could work. Part of the rumour has Nurse then flipped to NYR for K'Andre Miller + a 1st. The source of the rumour apparently heard this from an Oiler staff member and said they called the Lucic-Neal trade last year.

I don't like the Fleury deal so much and I expect a lot of flak, but Neal has a more palatable buy-out structure than Fleury which is why Vegas might be open to this trade.

With the Benning for Brown trade, I can already hear the comments. But Benning is one of the best 3rd pairing RHD and he is good enough to cover the 2RD on occassion. He would be better than any of the right side D in Ott right now and RHD are a less common commodity. As well, Brown is replaceable via Free Agency.

Koivu is a mentor to help with JP's return and Granlund is from JP's hometown team and a long-time Koivu teammate. He may accept a 1 yr team friendly deal to rejoin his fellow Finn teammate Koivu and to play with McDavid to pump his numbers for a more lucrative deal in 2021-22.

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST		YEARS	CAP HIT
Puljujärvi, Jesse		2	$950,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Bear, Ethan	2	$2,000,000
Benning, Matthew	3	$2,000,000
Day, Logan	1	$750,000
Lagesson, William	2	$785,000
Brown, Connor	2	$3,200,000
Athanasiou, Andreas	3	$3,000,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Quine, Alan	2	$700,000
Forsberg, Anton	2	$700,000
Karlsson, Melker	1	$800,000
Koivu, Mikko	1	$1,500,000
Pysyk, Mark	2	$850,000
Granlund, Mikael	1	$2,500,000

Trades

EDM

2020 3rd round pick (EDM)

CGY

2021 3rd round pick (EDM)

EDM

Brown, Connor [RFA Rights]

OTT

Benning, Matthew
2020 3rd round pick (EDM)

EDM

Fleury, Marc-André
2021 2nd round pick (NJD)

VGK

Neal, James

EDM

2020 3rd round pick (SJS)

DET

Kassian, Zack

EDM

2020 7th round pick (BUF)

BUF

Archibald, Josh

EDM

2020 5th round pick (NJD)

NJD

Chiasson, Alex

EDM

2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
2020 2nd round pick (WSH)
2020 4th round pick (EDM)

DET

2020 1st round pick (EDM)

Additional Details:

#14 for #'s 45, 56 & 107

EDM

Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
Grabner, Michael ($500,000 retained)
2021 2nd round pick (ARI)

ARI

Buyouts

Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Milan Lucic: $750,000 (12.5%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$75,887,699	$341,534	$230,000	$5,612,301

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Granlund, Mikael $2,500,000$2,500,000 C, RW UFA - 1	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000$12,500,000 C UFA - 6	Brown, Connor $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Draisaitl, Leon $8,500,000$8,500,000 C, LW UFA - 5	Yamamoto, Kailer $894,166$894,166 ($230,000$230K) RW RFA - 1
Grabner, Michael $2,850,000$2,850,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Koivu, Mikko $1,500,000$1,500,000 C UFA - 1	Puljujärvi, Jesse $950,000$950,000 RW UFA - 2
Nygård, Joakim $875,000$875,000 LW UFA - 1	Haas, Gaëtan $915,000$915,000 C UFA - 1	Karlsson, Melker $800,000$800,000 RW, C UFA

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $7,260,000$7,260,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Larsson, Adam $4,166,666$4,166,666 RD UFA - 1	Koskinen, Mikko $4,500,000$4,500,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Klefbom, Oscar $4,167,000$4,167,000 LD UFA - 3	Bear, Ethan $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD UFA - 2
Jones, Caleb $850,000$850,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Pysyk, Mark $850,000$850,000 RD UFA - 1	Fleury, Marc-André $3,500,000$3,500,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Lagesson, William $785,000$785,000 LD/RD UFA - 2
Russell, Patrick $700,000$700,000 RW UFA - 1
Quine, Alan $700,000$700,000 C UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Brown, C.		Granlund, M.		Draisaitl, L.
	Ekman-Larsson, O.		McDavid, C.

Power Play 2
Puljujärvi, J.		Yamamoto, K.		Nugent-Hopkins, R.
	Klefbom, O.		Bear, E.

Penalty Kill 1
	Grabner, M.	Koivu, M.
	Ekman-Larsson, O.	Larsson, A.

Penalty Kill 2
	Nugent-Hopkins, R.	Karlsson, M.
	Klefbom, O.	Bear, E.

Sep. 19, 2020 at 11:28 a.m.

ken_holland

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granlund will want more imo but pretty good

also, fleury is trash. wouldnt even add a 2nd

Sep. 19, 2020 at 11:34 a.m.

BStinson

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Are the two Detroit trades combined so it’s like this?

EDM - Kassian, EDM 1st
DET - 3rd SJS, 2nd EDM & WSH, 4th EDM

For VGK, I wouldn’t do that and just find someone to take Fleury on as the cap space would be used on Lehner. Possibly use a team like Detroit as a middle man to retain.

Sep. 19, 2020 at 11:38 a.m.

VGKNation702

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Lmao were not sending you Fleury and a 2nd to take on Neals terrible contract

Sep. 19, 2020 at 11:47 a.m.

ken_holland

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Quoting: VGKNation702

Lmao were not sending you Fleury and a 2nd to take on Neals terrible contract

Fleury's even worse no cap

Most overrated goalie of the decade, makes 7M, and rapidly declining.

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Sep. 19, 2020 at 12:23 p.m.

Grievous

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Edited Sep. 19, 2020 at 12:34 p.m.

Quoting: BStinson

No, they are separate trades. The 1st for the picks would be a 1st day of the Draft deal, the Kassian deal would be the following day at the Draft.

I will edit the trade details to show the pick #'s

Sep. 19, 2020 at 12:29 p.m.

Grievous

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Quoting: VGKNation702

Lmao were not sending you Fleury and a 2nd to take on Neals terrible contract

The Neal trade was discussed ad naseum last year in E-Town, the benefit is it is a superior buy out structure to Fleury's. Vegas will not buy Fleury out, but they must get rid of his contract somehow.

Outside of Colorado I see no other trade partner for Fleury's contract, but everyone knows Vegas is desperate to move him. This is not a normal year, so unless there is a really creative deal, you are not going to like the actual deal they end up making.

Sep. 19, 2020 at 12:43 p.m.

Grievous

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Edited Sep. 19, 2020 at 12:51 p.m.

Quoting: ken_holland

granlund will want more imo but pretty good

also, fleury is trash. wouldnt even add a 2nd

That's why Vegas adds a 2nd (they have 2 2021 2nds, so it is plausible) they are painted into a corner and have to do something, but their options are extremely limited.

Fleury would be suited to a secondary role and reduced workload to ~35 games. He is an upgrade over Smith and has a championship pedigree.

He would also help with the new injection of leadership on this roster.

And perhaps there is an opportunity to move Fleury to Seattle in the Expansion Draft next year.....

Granlund is less likely, but his results weren't amazing. Maybe given the NHL economy his options are limited and decides a cheaper 1 yr deal playing with McDavid will boost his market value as a UFA in 2021-22.

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Sep. 19, 2020 at 12:57 p.m.

Skyraider112

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Buffalo accepts. Not sure why you wanna trade your hardest working and arguably best defensive forward for a 7th.......

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Sep. 19, 2020 at 1:16 p.m.

Grievous

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Quoting: VGKNation702

Lmao were not sending you Fleury and a 2nd to take on Neals terrible contract

You may want to check your facts before you comment.

Goal scoring is the hardest thing to do in hockey. Neal scored the same number of goals in fewer games than Hintz, Kuznetsov, DeBrusk, Staal, van Riemsdyk, Barzal, Benn, Connolly and Larkin. Decent company I'd say, but his contract is what?

Neal was the 4th best player on the team vs Chicago behind McDavid, Draisaitl & Nuge. He was one of the top scorers in league but got banged up in early December and then got injured in January. He clearly was hurting the last half of the season. He is still an above average NHL goal scorer, he ranked 90th, which puts him as a top 6, if not top 3 scoring level on every team in the league.

Fleury had the 18th best save percentage of all starters, so he was a below average NHL goalie in 2020. The are 7 UFA goalies who performed above or at his level who will be cheaper to sign and there are also about 6 or 7 cheaper 'tenders on the trading block.

So when you look at it more closely, this deal is great for Vegas and for Fleury. It is not so great of a deal for Edmonton.

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Sep. 19, 2020 at 1:21 p.m.

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Grievous

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Edited Sep. 19, 2020 at 1:32 p.m.

Quoting: Skyraider112

Buffalo accepts. Not sure why you wanna trade your hardest working and arguably best defensive forward for a 7th.......

For the record, I love the player, but he doesn't move the needle at 5v5, which is Edmonton's biggest deficiency.

The purpose of the trade is to clear salary for more important positions. Maybe a 6th would be the ask for Archie, but he isn't really a 3rd liner, he is an expensive 4th liner (doesn't score enough for a higher role).

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