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Trading Back from 4th

Created by: AnyoneButTheBruins
Team: 2020-21 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 29, 2020
Published: Sep. 29, 2020
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Just seeing if people would do it. I think I would be fine with it as a Red Wings fan.
Free Agent Signings
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7$5,000,000
1$1,000,000
1$750,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
7$6,500,000
1$900,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
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DET
  1. 2020 1st round pick (BOS)
  2. 2020 1st round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. 2020 1st round pick (DET)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (SJS)
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2020
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2021
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28$81,500,000$68,332,458$0$1,352,500$13,167,542
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C
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
C
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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$874,125$874,125
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UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
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UFA - 1
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$3,850,000$3,850,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
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LD
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UFA - 2
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$714,166$714,166 (Performance Bonus$157,500$158K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
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UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167
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G
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$5,700,000$5,700,000
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$775,833$775,833 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
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$894,166$894,166
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RFA - 1
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RD
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$875,000$875,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
LW, RW
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UFA - 3
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$6,083,333$6,083,333
C
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:12 a.m.
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Not much difference in the players available at #4 and #6. If it were to move from #6 to #3, then this would be worth it. But Rossi, Raymond, Holtz, and Perfetti are a coin flip, and at least two of them will be available at #6. Don't think the Ducks go for this.
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:15 a.m.
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Yeah as long as ducks take drysdale one of rossi or raymond will still be there. I wouldn't trade the pick until both byfield and stutzle are off the draft board though. I also wouldn't touch selfish perfetti with a 60 foot poll, kids a bust. So as long as one of rossi and raymond are there and both stutzle and byfield are gone I'm ok with this move
Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:16 a.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Not much difference in the players available at #4 and #6. If it were to move from #6 to #3, then this would be worth it. But Rossi, Raymond, Holtz, and Perfetti are a coin flip, and at least two of them will be available at #6. Don't think the Ducks go for this.


See what you're saying this is more for if the Ducks have a guy they really want I think this is what it would cost to move up, no?
Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:18 a.m.
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Yeah as long as ducks take drysdale one of rossi or raymond will still be there. I wouldn't trade the pick until both byfield and stutzle are off the draft board though. I also wouldn't touch selfish perfetti with a 60 foot poll, kids a bust. So as long as one of rossi and raymond are there and both stutzle and byfield are gone I'm ok with this move


Why do you say Perfetti is selfish? I think you are going to be disappointed this draft then because I think that's who Yzerman is taking personally. He has connections to the organization and is on par with the other players in that tier 3 pick area.
Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:19 a.m.
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Why do you say Perfetti is selfish? I think you are going to be disappointed this draft then because I think that's who Yzerman is taking personally. He has connections to the organization and is on par with the other players in that tier 3 pick area.


I'll make you a bet we don't take that 3rd line bust

" I don't want to play for an old coach, I won't go dump and chase, that's not my game. I want to go to a team that lets me play my style of play and doesn't try and alter it" who the hell wants a little brat who makes comments like that
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:20 a.m.
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See what you're saying this is more for if the Ducks have a guy they really want I think this is what it would cost to move up, no?


No, I don't think the cost to move around between 4-8 would be very much. I think too much emphasis is placed on position and immediate needs by fans. Scouts and GMs look at overall quality and potential, and there's not much difference between the guys from 4-8 (Rossi, Perfetti, Raymond, Holtz, Drysdale). Moving from #4 to #9 would get you the haul you're looking for. Moving from #4 to #6 might get you a 2nd round pick.
Sep. 29, 2020 at 5:37 a.m.
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I'll make you a bet we don't take that 3rd line bust

" I don't want to play for an old coach, I won't go dump and chase, that's not my game. I want to go to a team that lets me play my style of play and doesn't try and alter it" who the hell wants a little brat who makes comments like that


Oh ya I forgot that was him that said those comments, ya I don't want a player that won't accommodate to the team strategy.
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 6:59 a.m.
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Why do you say Perfetti is selfish? I think you are going to be disappointed this draft then because I think that's who Yzerman is taking personally. He has connections to the organization and is on par with the other players in that tier 3 pick area.


Nobody is on par with Rossi's numbers except Lafremiere.
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 7:13 a.m.
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No real reason for the Ducks to do this, they have a few holes and as it has been said above the dif between 4 & 6 isnt significant. Ducks keep 6 and 27 here

Ducks take Drysdale/Raymond/Holtz at 6
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