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Keep Laine and Pray

Created by: OlegP
Team: 2020-21 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 29, 2020
Published: Sep. 29, 2020
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Description
-Bryan Little doesn't seem close to being able to play hockey again. He goes on LTIR in Montreal. Saves Jets some money in these trying times.
-Fleury adds some size to the Jets whom have little on the right side.
-Domi gets to be a 2nd line centre with elite talent. 72 point season in 2018-19 would be much easier to repeat rather than playing 4th line duty in Montreal
-Montreal is going younger and gets another Finnish talent in Vesalainen to join KK, Armia and Lehkonen, they also move up from 16th to 10th. Heavy cost to pay but worthwhile as consensus 11 picks are all virtually the same on every scout lists besides the order.
-Fleury/Alzner have a history of playing with each other in Laval and Montreal. Alzner skills are questionable but the Jets lack a lot of size on the left side. 6'3" 220 pound presence will serve them well on 3rd pair. Both are no worse than Nathan Beaulieu experiment
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$850,000
5$5,500,000
1$850,000
2$900,000
2$2,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,500,000
3$3,000,000
Trades
WPG
  1. Alzner, Karl ($1,500,000 retained)
  2. Domi, Max [RFA Rights]
  3. Fleury, Cale
  4. 2020 1st round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Little, Bryan
  2. Vesalainen, Kristian
  3. 2020 1st round pick (WPG)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$79,067,024$0$20,000$2,432,976
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 6
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$4,995,000$4,995,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
$5,500,000$5,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
LW, RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$2,280,000$2,280,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,916,667$2,916,667
C
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
UFA - 8
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$6,166,667$6,166,667
G
UFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167
LD
RFA - 4
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$3,125,000$3,125,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$771,666$771,666 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:03 p.m.
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Pass it to Lucic
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MTL isnt giving you a 1st, Domi, and young Dman for a young player and a 1st.
I like Vesalainen, but he isnt worth this entire package
Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:06 p.m.
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MTL isnt giving you a 1st, Domi, and young Dman for a young player and a 1st.
I like Vesalainen, but he isnt worth this entire package


Take out Fleury? Its essentially Domi to move up 6 spots and Vesa while also dumping Alzner's contract
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:28 p.m.
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Jets decline that mtl trade. They’re going to want to use that 10OA pick. There’s going to be a C that falls to them in 10. Also, why would they take on alzner? Imo Jets just keep 10OA, sign haula as a stopgap C option, then add dillon and keep little on LTIR.
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:33 p.m.
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Highly unlikely Winnipeg gives up 10OA to take back a cap dump and move a player that they can put on LTIR if he doesn't play. The Jets are far better off keeping the pick.
Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:49 p.m.
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Habs fans don't want to give up anything and Jets fans neither. Color me shocked
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:50 p.m.
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Jets decline that mtl trade. They’re going to want to use that 10OA pick. There’s going to be a C that falls to them in 10. Also, why would they take on alzner? Imo Jets just keep 10OA, sign haula as a stopgap C option, then add dillon and keep little on LTIR.


You are assuming players want to go to Winnipeg as free agents. They certainly do not. Dillon, keep dreaming. he'll have a half dozen teams very interested not to mention his own club
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 2:59 p.m.
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You are assuming players want to go to Winnipeg as free agents. They certainly do not. Dillon, keep dreaming. he'll have a half dozen teams very interested not to mention his own club


I'd rather resign Beaulieu, have samberg at 2LD, and copp at 2c than this trade you suggested. Plus this is a fantasy site, all you can do is speculate, so I speculate the Jets sign Dillon,
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 3:16 p.m.
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I'd rather resign Beaulieu, have samberg at 2LD, and copp at 2c than this trade you suggested. Plus this is a fantasy site, all you can do is speculate, so I speculate the Jets sign Dillon,



Oh Brolieu. The guy can take a punch, I'll give him that!
Andrew Copp at 2nd line center. Hey, it worked for a 10 game stretch! Now, lets see him turn into Bergeron over time, bay bay
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 3:24 p.m.
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Oh Brolieu. The guy can take a punch, I'll give him that!
Andrew Copp at 2nd line center. Hey, it worked for a 10 game stretch! Now, lets see him turn into Bergeron over time, bay bay


All I’m saying is that, taking on alzner, trading Vesalainen and the 10OA pick isn’t worth it to get Domi. I’d rather patch up the team and use that 10OA pick to get a really solid prospect.
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 3:26 p.m.
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All I’m saying is that, taking on alzner, trading Vesalainen and the 10OA pick isn’t worth it to get Domi. I’d rather patch up the team and use that 10OA pick to get a really solid prospect.


Just makes me laugh how one person can speculate but not another. The whole trade idea is based on Winnipeg not being able to attract free agents. Only reason Laine seems to be available is so Winnipeg can fill holes.

Habs are probably the only team that can take on salary and offer up a 25 year old 2nd line center on the cheap. You can’t ignore the Little salary dump when insurance won’t cover all of it and it’s 4 years long
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 3:35 p.m.
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Just makes me laugh how one person can speculate but not another. The whole trade idea is based on Winnipeg not being able to attract free agents. Only reason Laine seems to be available is so Winnipeg can fill holes.

Habs are probably the only team that can take on salary and offer up a 25 year old 2nd line center on the cheap. You can’t ignore the Little salary dump when insurance won’t cover all of it and it’s 4 years long


Jets don’t give a f about littles salary not being fully covered, they’re loyal to the players that have been there long term. They’ll pay him out with ease and not bat an eye at it. The Jets are also likely to get a C prospect at 10OA that will be better than Domi like Lundell, Perfetti, Rossi. Hell I’d take Sanderson at 10 over moving for Domi. What you’re missing here is that Domi likely comes to wpg and pushes himself to FA as quickly as possible. Even if he doesn’t and signs like 6x5m it’s still a bad deal. I think Domi is a low end 2C, like I said I’d rather give haula 3.5m for 2 years and put him between ehlers and Laine. Dylan DeMelo has already expressed interest in a possible contract extension, many rumours surrounding Travis hamonic wanting to come home. I get that they likely wouldn’t attract the big FA’s but in a flat cap world they’re only going to have so many options. Even if the Jets can’t attract free agents (not totally true) they’re not making this awful move. Domi isn’t worth it to take on alzner and move out a potential 2C or top 4 d prospect + Vesalainen.
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 3:41 p.m.
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Jets don’t give a f about littles salary not being fully covered, they’re loyal to the players that have been there long term. They’ll pay him out with ease and not bat an eye at it. The Jets are also likely to get a C prospect at 10OA that will be better than Domi like Lundell, Perfetti, Rossi. Hell I’d take Sanderson at 10 over moving for Domi. What you’re missing here is that Domi likely comes to wpg and pushes himself to FA as quickly as possible. Even if he doesn’t and signs like 6x5m it’s still a bad deal. I think Domi is a low end 2C, like I said I’d rather give haula 3.5m for 2 years and put him between ehlers and Laine. Dylan DeMelo has already expressed interest in a possible contract extension, many rumours surrounding Travis hamonic wanting to come home. I get that they likely wouldn’t attract the big FA’s but in a flat cap world they’re only going to have so many options. Even if the Jets can’t attract free agents (not totally true) they’re not making this awful move. Domi isn’t worth it to take on alzner and move out a potential 2C or top 4 d prospect + Vesalainen.


Look up I got Demelo signed. All I'm saying is you cant use speculation to fit your own narrative and not others. Domi here has signed a 5 year deal. You aren't paying attention
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 3:43 p.m.
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Jets don’t give a f about littles salary not being fully covered, they’re loyal to the players that have been there long term. They’ll pay him out with ease and not bat an eye at it. The Jets are also likely to get a C prospect at 10OA that will be better than Domi like Lundell, Perfetti, Rossi.


If Perfetti or Rossi is available at 10. I'll apologize to you but your insane with these views. Lundell looks like the bottom end 2c not Domi. They'll be wingers available at 10. Every scout has almost the same consensus 10 picks. I haven't seen anywhere Rossi or Perfetti at 10. Habs would be better off using the pick if Jets are gonna use it on Lundell whom is probably available at 16 or Seth Jarvis
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Sep. 29, 2020 at 4:27 p.m.
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If Perfetti or Rossi is available at 10. I'll apologize to you but your insane with these views. Lundell looks like the bottom end 2c not Domi. They'll be wingers available at 10. Every scout has almost the same consensus 10 picks. I haven't seen anywhere Rossi or Perfetti at 10. Habs would be better off using the pick if Jets are gonna use it on Lundell whom is probably available at 16 or Seth Jarvis


You think Lundell is going to be worse than Domi? Interesting, I mean besides the fact that Domi can hardly play defense and hasn’t put up more than 55 points once and is almost a career negative +/- player doesn’t fit that narrative too well imo. Not to mention he ended up on the 4th line in MTL this year. Okay I get Domi signs 5 years in this, but I still don’t think it’s a good deal for the Jets. Domi is a low end 2c. 100% a C will fall in the draft, it always happens. I have my mock draft set and from what I’m seeing it’s likely a C will fall. Like you said, I’m seeing my speculations not others, you’re seeing your speculations and not mine with the draft.
Sep. 29, 2020 at 4:39 p.m.
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You think Lundell is going to be worse than Domi? Interesting, I mean besides the fact that Domi can hardly play defense and hasn’t put up more than 55 points once and is almost a career negative +/- player doesn’t fit that narrative too well imo. Not to mention he ended up on the 4th line in MTL this year. Okay I get Domi signs 5 years in this, but I still don’t think it’s a good deal for the Jets. Domi is a low end 2c. 100% a C will fall in the draft, it always happens. I have my mock draft set and from what I’m seeing it’s likely a C will fall. Like you said, I’m seeing my speculations not others, you’re seeing your speculations and not mine with the draft.


Domi is a total mess in his own end. That is correct. Laine isn't exactly a defensive stalwart either but he's a 1st liner. What holds Domi back is his defensive game. You should check your stats and mine. Domi put up 72 points in 2019, it's in the title! His playmaking is elite level! I don't see how Laine wouldn't flourish in a exploitation line with Domi. Laine playing with someone other than Little or Copp would be a boon to him. If Laine wants 10 million plus, lets see if he's worth it. I think this Jets team is a much better squad despite you not liking the price to pay for Domi. Would you not want to see if Laine can put up 50 goals with an actually talented pivot?

Lundell being a top2 centre is awfully optimistic. Some say he's a third liner at best. The allure of him is that he has competed against men and held his own. You can't keep moving the goal posts. 10th overall isn't a slam dunk by any means for centers.
Holtz, Quinn, Askarov look to be the ones available with the necessary pedigree of a top10 pick. I've heard Sanderson could be available at 10 but i don't believe that. Theres the easy top 7 with Rossi and Perfetti included. Many consider Sanderson part of a top8 consensus. Unless the Jets are anxious to take a wild swing on a maybe 2nd line centre in Lundell, Jarvis, Zary, they'll be stuck with another winger that would serve the Habs quite well.

Yes its all speculation and it's a fantasy site. I dont see these trades happening but it would be fun as I see a fit with Montreal and Winnipeg
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