I wish it would happen but I dont think it would

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Created by: Old_Flames_Fan

Team: 2020-21 Calgary Flames

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 30, 2020

Published: Oct. 1, 2020

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I don’t actually think TB trades Point, he’s to valuable. That being said, they are in Cap hell and its rumoured that a big name that is unexpected could be moving. TB has given out NMC/NTC like Pez Candies and players are going to have to waive to move. Point can be moved easily so I chose him and why not its good for Calagry. Value is likely under what TB fans want but they also dump Palat’s contract which has been rumoured TB management wants to do. I don’t think this deal happens but one can dream. I did try to provide what I thought was fair value, but open to suggestions.

van Riemsdyk is a RHD that fits the budget. It would be a dman in that range. Was looking at Bogosian and Shattenkirk but I think both get raises next year outside Calgary.

Markstrom I gave a 6th year to bring down the AAV. it would be front loaded with a NTC is some form to which Van does not want to do for fear of losing Demko to the Seattle expansion and protecting Markstrom. Calgary will upgrade their Goalie position in some way but FA’s make the most sense.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Mangiapane, Andrew	2	$2,750,000
Gawdin, Glenn	2	$854,417
Kylington, Oliver	2	$871,750

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Markström, Jacob	6	$5,000,000
Rieder, Tobias	2	$700,000
Shore, Nick	2	$800,000
van Riemsdyk, Trevor	2	$2,000,000

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Emilio Pettersen, Mathias
Monahan, Sean
2020 1st round pick (CGY)
2021 2nd round pick (CGY)

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Troy Brouwer: $1,500,000
Michael Stone: $1,166,667

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$72,577,833	$0	$882,500	$8,922,167

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Matthew $7,000,000$7,000,000 RW UFA - 2	Point, Brayden $6,750,000$6,750,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Lindholm, Elias $4,850,000$4,850,000 C, RW UFA - 4
Gaudreau, Johnny $6,750,000$6,750,000 LW UFA - 2	Backlund, Mikael $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NTC UFA - 4	Palat, Ondrej $5,300,000$5,300,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 2
Dubé, Dillon $778,333$778,333 ($32,500$32K) LW, RW, C RFA - 1	Bennett, Sam $2,550,000$2,550,000 C UFA - 1	Mangiapane, Andrew $2,750,000$2,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
	Shore, Nick $800,000$800,000 C UFA	Gawdin, Glenn $854,417$854,417 C, RW UFA - 1
Lucic, Milan $5,250,000$5,250,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Giordano, Mark $3,375,000$3,375,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Andersson, Rasmus $4,550,000$4,550,000 RD UFA - 6	Markström, Jacob $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 6
Hanifin, Noah $1,237,500$1,237,500 LD UFA - 4	van Riemsdyk, Trevor $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD UFA - 1
Välimäki, Juuso $894,166$894,166 ($425,000$425K) LD RFA - 1	Yelesin, Alexander $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) RD RFA - 1	Rittich, David $1,375,000$1,375,000 G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Kylington, Oliver $871,750$871,750 LD/RD UFA - 1
Rieder, Tobias $700,000$700,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Oct. 1, 2020 at 12:52 a.m.

Letter_Kenny

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No. Point isn't being traded. Tampa can trade some combination of Killorn, Johnson, Gourde or Palat. The NTC's are tricky but not impossible to navigate. Cirelli and Cernak likely sign bridge deals. Sergachev gets paid. Coburn gets torpedoed. Shattenkirk is likely gone too.

Oct. 1, 2020 at 12:59 a.m.

Hedman77

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Point is the future captain after Stamkos and Hedman.

We will trade every RFA we have before Point.

Oct. 1, 2020 at 12:59 a.m.

CoopsTroops

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No chance Point is traded while he's making <$7 million.

Killorn only has a M-NTC so he's likely 1 prime candidate. Then there's a slew of full NTC candidates - Take note Detroit - that will likely all be asked about their willingness to waive their clauses. There's obviously certain players the team would like to trade, but who, if any, makes the selfless choice is anyone's guess.

Cirelli I think will be the main cap casualty before all is said and done this offseason.

Oct. 1, 2020 at 1:01 a.m.

Letter_Kenny

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Quoting: CoopsTroops

No chance Point is traded while he's making <$7 million.

Killorn only has a M-NTC so he's likely 1 prime candidate. Then there's a slew of NTC candidates - Take note Detroit - that will likely all be asked about their willingness to waive their clauses. There's obviously certain players the team would like to trade, but who, if any, makes the selfless choice is anyone's guess.

I expect Yzerman and Brisebois to make at least 1 trade.

Oct. 1, 2020 at 1:04 a.m.

CoopsTroops

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Quoting: Letter_Kenny

I expect Yzerman and Brisebois to make at least 1 trade.

I'm sure that phone line has been active since the season ended. Yzerman swooped in to get Erne to Detroit already, and I am sure he'd love an experienced cup winner to guide his young group. I'm not sure who'd waive to go to Detroit though.

Oct. 1, 2020 at 1:06 a.m.

Letter_Kenny

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Quoting: CoopsTroops

Something like Evgeny Svechnikov for Tyler Johnson is what I was thinking.

Oct. 1, 2020 at 1:12 a.m.

CoopsTroops

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Quoting: Letter_Kenny

Something like Svechnikov for Johnson is what I was thinking.

Johnson is obviously who Tampa would want to move most, but what Johnson wants at this point is unclear. He has the cup ring now, but why leave Tampa when they could still win again in the next few years? However, his role on the team has seriously diminished since he was tearing it up in the '15 playoffs. It was speculated he would be scratched or be moved to the 4th line if Stamkos was able to return healthy during the playoffs. That situation does not change all too much next year even with departures after Stephens, Volkov, and Verhaeghe looked like NHL caliber players in the playoffs.

I think he'd like a consistent Top 6 forward role again, but the question again is would he waive for Detroit who has no immediate playoff prospects. Yzerman may be the only one able to convince him if there is indeed interest.

Oct. 1, 2020 at 8:54 a.m.

Bigboi69

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Point has more value than you’re whole roster combined

Oct. 1, 2020 at 10:05 a.m.

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Quoting: Bigboi69

Point has more value than you’re whole roster combined

if you really believe that I have a bridge to sell you. Stay on planet Earth.

Oct. 1, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.

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Quoting: Old_Flames_Fan

if you really believe that I have a bridge to sell you. Stay on planet Earth.

Point is literally a top five player in the league and you guys don’t even have a top 20

Oct. 1, 2020 at 10:49 a.m.

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Quoting: Bigboi69

Point is literally a top five player in the league and you guys don’t even have a top 20

Point is a great player yes. Johnny is easily in the top 20 one year removed from 99 points. Has Point had 99 points yet? So again stay on planet Earth. Point .89 PPG stats, career points 40/66/92/64. Johnny .96 PPG outside his burnt ELC year career points 64/78/61/84/99/58. So actually one can make an argument that Johnny is a superior player to Point based off the numbers. Imagine what Johnny could do if he had the supporting players around him Point does.

Oct. 1, 2020 at 10:51 a.m.

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Quoting: Old_Flames_Fan

Point has much better analytics than Johnny and point carry’s Tampa and I can literally name 20 players better than Johnny

Oct. 1, 2020 at 1:24 p.m.

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Quoting: Bigboi69

Point has much better analytics than Johnny and point carry’s Tampa and I can literally name 20 players better than Johnny

Lots of space. Start typing. What are the parameters? Salary, points, age, etc. Establish those then go hard little buddy.

Oct. 1, 2020 at 1:34 p.m.

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Quoting: Old_Flames_Fan

Lots of space. Start typing.

Mcdavid,mackinnon,kucherov,point,Matthews,petterson,drasital,Marchand,stone,Pasternak,hedman,josi,Hamilton,pitrengelo,aho,eichel,makar,hughes,Barkov,stamkos. I could go on

Oct. 1, 2020 at 2:30 p.m.

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Edited Oct. 1, 2020 at 2:37 p.m.

Quoting: Bigboi69

Mcdavid,mackinnon,kucherov,point,Matthews,petterson,drasital,Marchand,stone,Pasternak,hedman,josi,Hamilton,pitrengelo,aho,eichel,makar,hughes,Barkov,stamkos. I could go on

Some good names. I think seeing as I am not backing down you refuse to add Johnny thats fine. I still feel he’s top 20. His production backs that up. Not to mention if Johnny was on the Tampa team you’d have him top 20. Is Point the same quality player not on Tampa? Ask Lowe about Penner.

Oct. 1, 2020 at 2:41 p.m.

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Quoting: Old_Flames_Fan

he aint top 20 rn, theres even more players he didnt name

Oct. 1, 2020 at 3:00 p.m.

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Quoting: Old_Flames_Fan

Points isolated stats say he is top 4 offensively and top 20 defensively and those are based off individual performance and it is irrelevant to line mates playing time and matchups

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