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Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 8, 2020
Published: Oct. 8, 2020
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They really signed Girgensons to a 3 year deal but didnt want to pay Kahun... I hate this team
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2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
13$81,500,000$50,029,167$1,487,500$3,487,500$31,470,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,625,000$1,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
UFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$3,875,000$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
RD
RFA - 1

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Oct. 8, 2020 at 9:14 p.m.
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just because they didn't QO him doesn't mean they didn't offer him a contract. I think that goes for a lot of players. Wait and see.
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Oct. 8, 2020 at 9:16 p.m.
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just because they didn't QO him doesn't mean they didn't offer him a contract. I think that goes for a lot of players. Wait and see.


Why would he Re-Sign when he can get more on the open market with a better team? this management is an absolute joke.
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Oct. 8, 2020 at 9:16 p.m.
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Move across the state, it'll be fun
Oct. 8, 2020 at 9:18 p.m.
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AGAIN? ... when have you ever won? .
Last millenium?
Oct. 8, 2020 at 9:28 p.m.
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Why would he Re-Sign when he can get more on the open market with a better team? this management is an absolute joke.


you don't know that yet.
Oct. 8, 2020 at 9:30 p.m.
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you don't know that yet.


I hope Kahun stays. He's a perfect third liner and won't break the bank. I laugh at the fact Buffalo acts like they can afford to lose him. We don't have that luxury.
Oct. 8, 2020 at 9:32 p.m.
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I hope Kahun stays. He's a perfect third liner and won't break the bank. I laugh at the fact Buffalo acts like they can afford to lose him. We don't have that luxury.


every team has issues now. And they aren't just cap. They are revenue issues. Buffalo is a small market team. How much you think they are making out side of gate?
Relax. Every team has the same issues. Teams with cap space is all small market teams that don't spend. The big market teams are all capped out.
The market isn't going to be great for the middle guys this year. And it's just something that needs to be worked out.
Oct. 8, 2020 at 10:57 p.m.
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every team has issues now. And they aren't just cap. They are revenue issues. Buffalo is a small market team. How much you think they are making out side of gate?
Relax. Every team has the same issues. Teams with cap space is all small market teams that don't spend. The big market teams are all capped out.
The market isn't going to be great for the middle guys this year. And it's just something that needs to be worked out.


I understand your point. Kahun is our best option on the third line tho. It's not like $30M in cap space is effected by his renewal. It's pure greed at this point. We don't have anyone in the system to effectively replace what he brings. If Kahun's $2-3M is an issue, This team is absolutely screwed.
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Oct. 8, 2020 at 11:30 p.m.
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I understand your point. Kahun is our best option on the third line tho. It's not like $30M in cap space is effected by his renewal. It's pure greed at this point. We don't have anyone in the system to effectively replace what he brings. If Kahun's $2-3M is an issue, This team is absolutely screwed.


That's just it, he's not worth a 3Mil contract. That's what a 20 goal winger makes. He's not that.
He hasn't proven that at any point.
So to avoid over paying for him, you don't QO him.
It's the smart move. Doesn't mean he won't be back. No one else is gonna give him 3 mil either.
Oct. 8, 2020 at 11:38 p.m.
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That's just it, he's not worth a 3Mil contract. That's what a 20 goal winger makes. He's not that.
He hasn't proven that at any point.
So to avoid over paying for him, you don't QO him.
It's the smart move. Doesn't mean he won't be back. No one else is gonna give him 3 mil either.


So what you're saying is, you believe he wants $3M from the Sabres, They don't want to outbid themselves, and the Non-QO is trying to call his bluff? I think potting 31 points isn't subject for that much of a raise in arbitration. I really want him back. He was a big part of our top 9. We really can't afford to lose him.
Oct. 8, 2020 at 11:44 p.m.
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So what you're saying is, you believe he wants $3M from the Sabres, They don't want to outbid themselves, and the Non-QO is trying to call his bluff? I think potting 31 points isn't subject for that much of a raise in arbitration. I really want him back. He was a big part of our top 9. We really can't afford to lose him.


You never know what you are going to get with arbitration. And they didn't want to go that route for that very reason.
Oct. 8, 2020 at 11:46 p.m.
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You never know what you are going to get with arbitration. And they didn't want to go that route for that very reason.


But If they didn't like the number after taking the gamble of a QO, why not just walk from the table if it isn't a palatable number?
Oct. 8, 2020 at 11:51 p.m.
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But If they didn't like the number after taking the gamble of a QO, why not just walk from the table if it isn't a palatable number?


because arbitration ruins relationships.
Oct. 8, 2020 at 11:52 p.m.
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because arbitration ruins relationships.


How about a Non-QO?
Oct. 8, 2020 at 11:54 p.m.
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How about a Non-QO?


I don't think, players understand. They let him hit FA, see what's there and circle back.
Anyone done with this.
It's fine.
Oct. 8, 2020 at 11:56 p.m.
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I don't think, players understand. They let him hit FA, see what's there and circle back.
Anyone done with this.
It's fine.


So you think he'll be back?
 
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