Leafs Suddenly Have Too Many D

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Created by: Leafs_Storm

Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 12, 2020

Published: Oct. 12, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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I personally would have Engvall in the roster over Vesey, Simmonds, or Barabanov, but Engvall is currently waiver-exempt and I could see the Leafs wanting to keep Bogosian up with the team instead of waiving him (despite better options until another trade occurs.)

Ultimately, due to having Bogo, the Leafs now have a bottom pair spare defenseman, along with Rosen, Marincin, Sandin, and Liljegren. That's 11 players who could slot into at least the 3rd pair, which is why I can foresee a Holl trade. However, without seeing how Dermott fits on the right side next to Muzzin or Rielly yet, it does not provide me confidence to do that.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Dermott, Travis	1	$874,125
Anderson, Joey	2	$775,000
Mikheyev, Ilya	1	$1,000,000

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Buried

Pierre Engvall: $175,000 ($1,250,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$81,326,408	$0	$0	$173,592

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 4	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW UFA - 5
Mikheyev, Ilya $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 5	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 4
Robertson, Nicholas $821,667$821,667 LW, RW RFA - 4	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 3	Vesey, Jimmy $900,000$900,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Simmonds, Wayne $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 1	Spezza, Jason $700,000$700,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Barabanov, Alexander $925,000$925,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NMC UFA - 4	Holl, Justin $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD NMC UFA - 4	Campbell, Jack $1,650,000$1,650,000 G UFA - 2
Lehtonen, Mikko $925,000$925,000 LD UFA - 1	Dermott, Travis $874,125$874,125 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Bogosian, Zach $1,000,000$1,000,000 RD NTC UFA - 1
Anderson, Joey $775,000$775,000 RW RFA - 3

Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:17 p.m.

Johnwill479

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Justin holl a top 4 guy? He’s a 3 paring guy at best even if Petro was his partner he still wouldn’t look good out there.

Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:19 p.m.

Quarrelsomesneeze

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Quoting: Johnwill479

Justin holl a top 4 guy? He’s a 3 paring guy at best even if Petro was his partner he still wouldn’t look good out there.

He was a solid top 4 guys last year. He played on the shutdown pair with Muzz. He won't score too much but he can definitely lock it down.

Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:20 p.m.

Quarrelsomesneeze

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I think Dermott and Mikheyev will get a bit more money but this looks pretty solid otherwise

Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:20 p.m.

Leafs_Storm

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Quoting: Johnwill479

Justin holl a top 4 guy? He’s a 3 paring guy at best even if Petro was his partner he still wouldn’t look good out there.

His results next to Muzzin all season were pretty good. Their xGF and actual GF were really solid together. He's not a guy you want carrying a pair, which was clearly evidenced once Muzzin got injured in both the regular season and play-in, but as the complementary guy on the pair, he does a solid, steady job.

Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:21 p.m.

TMLBRIAN

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Something I just noticed is that Korshkov currently has 11 pts in 12 games in the KHL. He will make an actual push for the Leafs also. Makes things even more complicated to work out!

As for D pairings - I assume it will be:

Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Lehtonen
Dermott or Sandin - Bogosian or Holl

Maybe send Sandin down and either run 7 or alternate Dermott, Bogo and Holl every game, until their competence hierarchy becomes apparent.

Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:21 p.m.

Leafs_Storm

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Quoting: Quarrelsomesneeze

I think Dermott and Mikheyev will get a bit more money but this looks pretty solid otherwise

$874,125 is Dermott's Qualifying Offer. I think the leafs are going to squeeze him hard, and a 1 year deal at the QO is probably the best outcome for both parties. Mikheyev I predict around $1.3M, but again, the Leafs are really going to squeeze him on that contract so I pushed for an even 1M so that the roster could take 2 spares instead of just 1.

Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:22 p.m.

Laudan

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Quoting: Johnwill479

Justin holl a top 4 guy? He’s a 3 paring guy at best even if Petro was his partner he still wouldn’t look good out there.

Dont tell TML homers that...hes next Lidström, it just took him up to 28y of age to show the first sparks.....

Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:23 p.m.

Leafs_Storm

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Quoting: TMLBRIAN

Korshkov and Engvall are in the AHL/KHL in this version of the roster, but I agree that Korshkov will be pushing for a roster spot this year. I want Lehtonen in the top 4, but I'm keeping it conservative on him until we see his game on a North American-sized ice sheet. I think both Sandin and Liljegren, as well as Engvall and Korshkov could start in the AHL/KHL just based on waiver eligibility, and wanting to see what they have in Simmonds, Vesey, Lehtonen, and Barabanov.

Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:25 p.m.

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Quoting: Laudan

Dont tell TML homers that...hes next Lidström, it just took him up to 28y of age to show the first sparks.....

He's a 4/5 guy, who should be on a bottom pair, but is a very solid as just a steady, complimentary piece with a better partner. His results next to Muzzin were solid all season, but with Muzzin hurt, the results expectedly dipped and he looked overmatched in a shutdown role without him. I think we've seen that they work together, and I don't see a need to change it unless somebody forces Keefe's hand, but I have no qualms with him in that role as long as healthy Muzzin is next to him.

Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:26 p.m.

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Laudan

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Quoting: Leafs_Storm

Muzzin with his working horse attitude would make even you and me look good next to him....on NHL level that is.....

Holl is No6 D at best and 1M overpaid for the quality he brings, but at least you didnt trade him for a 3rd like TML homers usualy do....

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Oct. 12, 2020 at 3:27 p.m.

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leafs101

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Did you see how many guys got hurt last year on our blue line? You simply cannot have too many NHL level D, especially considering how cheap we are getting like half of them for

Oct. 12, 2020 at 8:18 p.m.

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Quoting: Laudan

Clearly if you think that, you've never seen my Jack Johnson-esque ability to destroy a pairing, and that's in beer league. I think Holl would be a good 5D, he's big enough and competent enough to be at least a 5D. 4D is when the competition improves, he got lots of d-zone starts, and it was clear that with Muzzin he could handle it. When it was him and Dermott and he needed to carry more of the responsibility, they couldn't be a shutdown duo. 4/5D is i think accurate, but it would be nice if he wasn't making 2M a year.

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