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Created by: bob123

Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 13, 2020

Published: Oct. 13, 2020

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I lot of Flordia fans don't like the Kerfoot for Weegar swap because it doesn't save them enough cap so I wanted to ask if these kinds of trades would be enough cap relief

Idea 1: Holl + 5th rounder, if Holl is too much salary to take on then

Idea 2: Dermott/Engvall + 5th rounder, or if the Panthers don't want to take on salary

Idea 3: 3rd rounder or prospect (e.g. SDA)

Idk how Panthers and Leafs fans feel about the value but I just want to know, mostly from a Panthers perspective how a structure to this deal would look like. Would 1-2 mil contracts + sweetner be affordable to take on or would it be a strict cap dump where only picks/prospects are the return. Valuation might be off so please don't roast me.

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TOR

Weegar, MacKenzie [RFA Rights]

FLA

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$81,109,783	$0	$400,000	$390,217

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 4	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW UFA - 5
Engvall, Pierre $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 5	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 4
Vesey, Jimmy $900,000$900,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 3	Simmonds, Wayne $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 1
Robertson, Nicholas $821,667$821,667 LW, RW RFA - 4	Spezza, Jason $700,000$700,000 C, RW UFA - 1
	Boyd, Travis $700,000$700,000 C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NMC UFA - 4	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD NMC UFA - 4	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Holl, Justin $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Campbell, Jack $1,650,000$1,650,000 G UFA - 2
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167$894,167 LD UFA - 2	Bogosian, Zach $1,000,000$1,000,000 RD NTC UFA - 1
Rosén, Calle $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 2

Oct. 13, 2020 at 12:21 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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Entirely as an outsider, I think that Weegar's value = Kapanen's value, maybe minus a little. This is based upon your (and your colleagues') expressed intention to play him in your top 4. It seems utterly illogical to me to say he's only worth Holl plus a low draft pick and then say he's Holl's replacement and a significant upgrade.

Oct. 13, 2020 at 12:23 p.m.

Laudan

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

hey, watch out old fart...Holl is worth a 3rd ( ask Schmidt ) and while he already wore blue and white, Weegar is worth a 7th cause he hasnt yet......

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Oct. 13, 2020 at 12:23 p.m.

Hockey91

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Yeah there’s nothing the leafs want to give up that the panthers need. Kerfoot makes more and is a third line center that they dont need engvall is similar just cheaper winter that that dont need. Dermott is a little step below weegar might as well keep weegar and with holl they’re stacked on the right side so unless you’re taking stralman also there’s no need for him. I just dont see Toronto being a good partner if they plan to trade weegar which I dont think they are, maybe if they traded for Schmidt but now I dont see the reason to move him. Sign him to a 2 year 3 mil a year and see how it goes.

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Oct. 13, 2020 at 12:27 p.m.

Kosterjr

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Leafs won’t get Weegar because they won’t give up what the Panthers would want. Either Sandin or A high end center prospect would be ideal for them.

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Oct. 13, 2020 at 12:27 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: Laudan

hey, watch out old fart...Holl is worth a 3rd ( ask Schmidt ) and while he already wore blue and white, Weegar is worth a 7th cause he hasnt yet......

Well put!!

Oct. 13, 2020 at 12:29 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: Kosterjr

Leafs won’t get Weegar because they won’t give up what the Panthers would want. Either Sandin or A high end center prospect would be ideal for them.

Agreed. Toronto doesn't have a high-end center prospect signed and Sandin is probably too much. The only deal I can see that makes sense for Florida is Liljegren and Toronto's 2021 second.

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Oct. 13, 2020 at 12:33 p.m.

Leafsfan416

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Agreed. Toronto doesn't have a high-end center prospect signed and Sandin is probably too much. The only deal I can see that makes sense for Florida is Liljegren and Toronto's 2021 second.

What about Dermott + Kerfoot + 2021 2nd for Weegar

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Oct. 13, 2020 at 12:36 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: Leafsfan416

What about Dermott + Kerfoot + 2021 2nd for Weegar

I think that that would work.

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Oct. 13, 2020 at 12:48 p.m.

Laudan

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Edited Oct. 13, 2020 at 2:06 p.m.

Quoting: Leafsfan416

What about Dermott + Kerfoot + 2021 2nd for Weegar

that was my sim from three days ago ( havent published tho cause of so many Weegar hunters out there from TML homers club )

Kerfoot as LW for second or third Line

Dermott as filler for 3rd Pair LHD

I also got 2022 3rd back tho

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Oct. 13, 2020 at 2:04 p.m.

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tml1967

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Quoting: Leafsfan416

What about Dermott + Kerfoot + 2021 2nd for Weegar

Thats too much IMO.
If its Dermot + 2nd, that seems close. Kerfoot is a decent 3C, who is owed less than 2.7m for the next 3 years in actual dollars. He has decent value, and this trade makes a massive hole down the middle for the Leafs.
If its Kerfoot+Dermott+2nd id want Weegar+Accari

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