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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 6 at 9:14 a.m.
Thread: Keeping Giroux
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>its a 350k difference from Philly a 700k from Canada, it isnt a huge thing. You arent getting a .7 ppg player for 4.5 million a year.

4 x 5.8 would mean 2.2 million more than a 3 x 7. That isnt a ton especially when Giroux could probably earn 4-5 as a 38 year old in a 90+ million dollar cap scenario. Then you add in the taxes savings of 350k a year over returning to philly and you have a much more respectable 3.5 million dollar difference. Giroux would take that.

4 x 4.5 mil = 18 million + 4 x 350k = 19.2 million
3 x 7 = 21 million.
No agent should ever accept taking less guaranteed money.</div></div>

While I dont know if you’re right or wrong I have no idea. But if he’s having fun and enjoying Florida why wouldn’t you stay in Florida for 1.8 less than go back to a crap team and a crap city lol
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 23 at 8:05 p.m.
Thread: FLA-VAN-VGK
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SupremeBone</b></div><div>Well, you're free to think that but 5.3mil for an aging 3rd liner isn't the kind of asset people line up to pay for. His "almost 40 points" (stretching the definition of "almost") also isn't all that much when you consider the absurdly strong offensive team FLA has had this year.

Further, whether something is considered a cap dump or not is also dependent on whether the continued presence of said player on the team limits the ability for the team to retain or build on their existing roster. The Panthers have ~4.8mil in cap space to replace much of their roster's depth and, without moving Hornqvist or another contract, they'd likely be stuck filling out their bottom-6 and 3rd pairing with sub-optimal options. For a contending team, that's not an ideal situation. As such, they would stand to benefit a lot from being free of Hornqvist's 5.3mil in cap hit as a replacement for him likely costs notably less.

This fact in conjunction with my earlier point regarding his performance not being close to worth 5.3mil means he's a cap dump- even if he has value as a player.</div></div>

He plays very minimal minutes and pp minutes. On the right team he’ll do the same thing. He’ll be traded with a fourth or fifth for a third or fourth or he’ll be traded to a rebuilder for a late pick who will trade him 50% retained to. A team on his trade list.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 23 at 6:51 a.m.
Thread: FLA-VAN-VGK
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SupremeBone</b></div><div>I think FLA disproportionately benefits from this 3-way trade. They get out of a cap burden in Hornqvist AND get Dadonov and Hague at the cost of a bunch of easily replaceable assets- with the arguable exception of the 2nd. Ignoring that Hornqvist should probably cost a 2nd to be free of alone, an objective analysis of the pieces doesn't look like a package that'd approach even just Hague in value:

- a B or B+ prospect (solid but unspectacular)
- a 24-yr old bottom pairing Dman (not bad but pretty much every team has a comparable player or two)
- a young bottom-6 C (not hard to replace)
- a 4th round pick (close to a 5th)

Since your scenario already has VAN taking on cap burdens for picks (something I don't think they're looking to do, but let's entertain the idea), I think they'd be much better off simply taking a pick from Vegas for taking on Dadonov and foregoing all the extra work.</div></div>
But hornqvist isn’t a cap dump. He’s still very valuable and has put up almost 40 points this year. The panthers are giving up a lot here.
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