Getting under the cap

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Created by: Kalopsia

Team: 2020-21 Washington Capitals

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 14, 2020

Published: Oct. 14, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I checked out a few Winnipeg ACGMs and adding a LHD and a middle six RW seems to be a theme, so hopefully this fits their needs. Siegs is expected to get something like 2x1.25M on a bridge deal, so Winnipeg is adding about 1.75M in salary with this trade. I think Siegs and Roslovic are fairly equivalent in value - young players with some upside coming off their ELCs who've yet to fully break out. I hate to trade Panik when he was just starting to warm up late in the season, but with the Schultz signing it's hard to see a way to fill out a 22 man roster without someone like him leaving, so he's thrown in basically for free. I'd rather they moved Hagelin, but I have a feeling it'll be Panik. Getting Roslovic back eases the pain though, since I could see him eventually replacing Oshie in the top 6 and the Caps don't have any RW prospects at the moment who project as much more than 4th liners.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Roslovic, Jack		2	$2,250,000

Trades

WSH

Roslovic, Jack [RFA Rights]

WPG

Pánik, Richard
Siegenthaler, Jonas [RFA Rights]

Buried

Pheonix Copley: $25,000 ($1,100,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$72,156,545	$419,749	$732,500	$9,343,455

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Ovechkin, Alex $9,538,462$9,538,462 LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Kuznetsov, Evgeny $3,900,000$3,900,000 C M-NTC UFA - 5	Wilson, Tom $5,166,667$5,166,667 RW M-NTC UFA - 4
Vrána, Jakub $3,350,000$3,350,000 LW UFA - 1	Bäckström, Nicklas $9,200,000$9,200,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Oshie, T.J. $5,750,000$5,750,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 5
Hagelin, Carl $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW UFA - 3	Eller, Lars $2,415,000$2,415,000 C UFA - 3	Roslovic, Jack $2,250,000$2,250,000 C, RW UFA - 2
	Dowd, Nic $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 2	Sprong, Daniel $725,000$725,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Hathaway, Garnet $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dillon, Brenden $3,900,000$3,900,000 LD UFA - 4	Carlson, John $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 6	Samsonov, Ilya $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) G UFA - 1
Orlov, Dmitry $1,275,000$1,275,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3		Lundqvist, Henrik $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 1
Fehérváry, Martin $791,667$791,667 ($132,500$132K) LD/RD RFA - 3	Schultz, Justin $4,000,000$4,000,000 RD UFA - 2
	Jensen, Nick $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
van Riemsdyk, Trevor $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1		Kempný, Michal $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD UFA - 2
Pinho, Brian $725,000$725,000 C, RW UFA - 2

Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:22 p.m.

Capitalfail67

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Only issue, you addressed it, is that Hagelin is a 4th line player. Panik is a more realistic 3W than Hags. Maybe we could add a pick to make this seem more enticing to take the lesser player

Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:26 p.m.

BenG34

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As a fellow caps fan I 100% agree with moving on with Panik. But instead of moving on with Siegenthaler, I would rather move on from Jensen. I know Siegs is gonna demand a smaller contract and would be easier to trade. But he's the better player. The problem is that I don't know of many teams that would take on the 5mil from Jensen and Panik. I'd personally trade a 3rd from 2022 with Jensen and Panik to a team like Detroit or Ottawa and see if they're willing to take both of them for like a 4th or a 5th.

Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:31 p.m.

Kalopsia

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

Only issue, you addressed it, is that Hagelin is a 4th line player. Panik is a more realistic 3W than Hags. Maybe we could add a pick to make this seem more enticing to take the lesser player

I have a feeling the organization just values Hagelin more than Panik due to his PKing and his fit in the locker room. He's really not awful as a 3rd liner though. As much as it feels like he kills offense, he's got 36 points in 78 games as a Cap, which honestly was pretty surprising to me when I first saw it. That's high-end 3rd line production.

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Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:31 p.m.

BenG34

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

Only issue, you addressed it, is that Hagelin is a 4th line player. Panik is a more realistic 3W than Hags. Maybe we could add a pick to make this seem more enticing to take the lesser player

I personally have to disagree with you. What does Panik add to the team? He's not good enough to be apart of the PK or PP. Hagelin was a big reason why the PK was as good as it was last year. Id say move Sprong to the 3rd line RW. Then have a guy like Pinho or Gersich as the 4th line LW. Also Panik played 4th line wing last year. Does the front office want to pay a 4th liner 2.5mil? I can't really see them doing so.

Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:39 p.m.

Kalopsia

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Quoting: BenG34

Totally disagree on Siegs being better than Jensen. Especially if Lavi wants the team to play up-tempo, Jensen's advantage in skating will be huge. You've also got to factor in who's above and below them. Siegs is unlikely to have to play up in the lineup because Orlov and Dillon are both solid and don't have any injury issues, while Jensen's behind Schultz, who's a significant risk to play his way out of the top 4 either by continuing to play like he did last year with the Pens or by getting another major injury. Keeping Siegs blocks Fehervary, which could turn out to be especially damaging if the AHL season doesn't happen and they have to send him to Europe, while keeping Jensen blocks TVR, who's a finished product and only signed for a year anyway. I'd much rather keep Jensen as Schultz insurance and trade Siegs instead to free up a spot for Fehervary.

Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:45 p.m.

Eli

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Quoting: Kalopsia

True. And Panik got 20 even strength points in his last 36 games of last year, which is a 45 point pace, without any power plays. But nobody wants either of those guys. Other teams are still UFA shopping and not interested in trading for signed players yet.

If WSH wants a UFA they might as well just sign them now. Trade prices couldn't get worse than what guys are joking about right now on here.

On the other hand, if they're going to sign another 1M player to 4Mx2, they should just stop now.

Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:47 p.m.

Kalopsia

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Quoting: BenG34

Panik didn't PK (much) because the Caps happened to have a really solid crop of PKing forwards, but he absolutely capable of being an everyday PKer. Offensively, he had a rough start and then an injury, but after returning from that injury he looked a lot better. The last 47 games of the season he had 22 points, which is a 38 point pace. If he can pick up where he left off he's a pretty ideal third line winger. I'd also like to see him get a chance at LW, since that's the side he's more used to. I think a lot of that bad start to the season can be chalked up to adjusting to a new team and a new position.

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Oct. 14, 2020 at 3:56 p.m.

Capitalfail67

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Quoting: Kalopsia

that number is actually really impressive...i expected it to be way less. Hard to say who i value more.

Panik: ....54.95CF%........... 52.37FF%............51.39 xGF% ... 59gp...9g...13a...22pooints last 3 years point totals (35,33,22)
Hagelin ...53.96CF%............52.57FF%............50.29 xGF% ... 58gp....8g...17a...25 points last 3 years point total ( 31, 19, 25)

Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:02 p.m.

Capitalfail67

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Quoting: BenG34

Panik last 20 games he had 12 points. (.6ppg) thats roughly a 50 point pace. you could argue that he needed time to adjust to the capitals system but he was absolutely on fire at the end of the year. What does Panik add to the team? YOu mean besides solid offensive numbers, great defensive numbers and the 2nd best possession numbers on the team? Pinho or Gersich are both average AHL players and you want them to play on a cup contender roster?

Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:04 p.m.

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Kalopsia

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

They played the vast majority of their minutes together, so possession numbers won't tell you much. But yeah, they're pretty even right now. The main reason I'd rather move Hagelin is that he's 3 years older, so age-related decline is more of a risk. That's probably what'll make Panik easier to move as well. I could see him getting 3x2.75M if he was a UFA right now, but I don't think Hags would as a 32 year old.

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Oct. 14, 2020 at 4:07 p.m.

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Capitalfail67

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Quoting: Kalopsia

They played the vast majority of their minutes together, so possession numbers won't tell you much. But yeah, they're pretty even right now. The main reason I'd rather move Hagelin is that he's 3 years older, so age-related decline is more of a risk. That's probably what'll make him easier to move as well. I could see him getting 3x2.75M if he was a UFA right now, but I don't think Hags would as a 32 year old.

fair point actually forgot they were on the same line. Panik look great towards the end of the year... finished with 12 points in 20 games. Both are solid in their own ways. i just think Panik has the higher ceiling atm.

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Oct. 14, 2020 at 6:22 p.m.

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

Who says that Panik isn't gonna be trash at the beginning of the season again? He really didn't work on the third line this past season. He started to heat up after joining the 4th line. With the way the Caps cap situation is. Do you really think it's worth it to keep a guy getting paid 2.5 mil on the 4th line? That 2.5 mil opens up more money for Siegenthaler and if need be they can sign a 4th liner for league minimum. If Panik was a good PK or PP player I'd probably change my mind. But he's just an overpaid 4th liner for a team that needs cap space.

Oct. 14, 2020 at 7:52 p.m.

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Capitalfail67

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Quoting: BenG34

So you’re just going to ignore the facts I sent you and go with opinionated/ subjective takes? Hard Pass on this conversation lol

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