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Pain for Shane Kane Toews Edition

Created by: HatterTParty
Team: 2020-21 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 15, 2020
Published: Oct. 15, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
This is assuming the core has truly had enough, which is very realistic.

Also, if you’re going to comment, don’t just criticize or butcher the thread. Explain your rational and have a civil discussion.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,800,000
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Keith, Duncan
  2. 2021 5th round pick (CHI)
2.
CHI
  1. Johnson, Tyler
  2. 2021 1st round pick (TBL)
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
3.
CHI
  1. Primeau, Cayden
  2. Tatar, Tomas
  3. Tuch, Luke [Reserve List]
  4. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
  5. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Kane, Patrick ($3,000,000 retained)
4.
5.
CHI
  1. Poulin, Samuel
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (PIT)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$60,229,518$1,090,244$6,750,000$21,270,482
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,700,000$3,700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
C
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$6,400,000$6,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$562,500$562,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$950,000$950,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, C, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$3,850,000$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 3
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$6,875,000$6,875,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 2

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 1:06 a.m.
#26
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Quoting: VGKNation702
Of course you think it’s fair. I think Toews is still a damn good player, but he makes too much. Giving up Glass, a top 6 pick. Dugan who scored the most points in the AHL and a first to “get rid” of fleury and Martinez. Both those guys still play good, just like Toews. The franchise would be better served to see what that have in Glass and Krebs.

Toews is no doubt a hall of famer, and no doubt would improve our team for the now. But I still don’t know if Toews is the piece that pushes us over. Maybe at the deadline something could happen, but not before the season.


I won’t dispute what you have in glass and Krebs, they both have great potential. However, having said that, it’s extremely fair to say that toews does significantly improve your lineup. Especially if stastny is the one he is compared to.

Another thing to remember is that vegas’ window is right now. The core of the team, save for stone, karlsson, and Theodore, are heading for 30. Realistically, this trade just makes Vegas start working towards the cup now. I love the notion of success now and in the future, but you gotta get that cup now. Otherwise, you’re betting on future pieces that are largely unproven at the moment.

Lastly, and this is just me, that Pietro contract is gonna be murder in 3 years. Be it the cap or his own performance, that’s gonna hurt the team. The window is right now for the next few years. Again, that’s just how I see it.
Oct. 16, 2020 at 4:29 a.m.
#27
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I don’t think the Penguins trade Poulin, there number 1 prospect, for Tatar who is a free agent after this year. Plus a 3rd round pick.
Oct. 16, 2020 at 11:40 a.m.
#28
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Quoting: HatterTParty
Just fixed that. Which reminds me: how or why the hell did we have to retain on maatta AND Saad?!


Not sure. Saad's will be off the books after this season though
 
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