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Blockbuster VGK Trade

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Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 9, 2020
Published: Nov. 9, 2020
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21$81,500,000$76,534,491$0$0$4,965,509
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Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:38 p.m.
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Worst thing about this is I feel you actually think it’s a good trade haha 😂
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Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:40 p.m.
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I don’t think Vegas should do it
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Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:41 p.m.
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Worst thing about this is I feel you actually think it’s a good trade haha 😂


If you think this makes Toronto worse, oh boy
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Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:47 p.m.
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Vegas wouldnt do that trade, people in the east have no idea how good Shea. He is one of the best in the west.
Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:49 p.m.
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If you think this makes Toronto worse, oh boy


totally, somebody is delusional.
Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:49 p.m.
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If you think this makes Toronto worse, oh boy
wouldn’t trade matthews for that straight up I’d rather Freddy then a washed up fleury horrible all around
Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:50 p.m.
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totally, somebody is delusional.

Would you trade your franchise center for that package asking for a friend
Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:55 p.m.
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Would you trade your franchise center for that package asking for a friend


If you wouldnt do that trade its up to you, but it is really a dam good trade and I bet Leafs would really think long and hard about that. Matthews has not gone over 80 points and you get 2 guys with 75 point seasons and a legit number 1 D
Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:57 p.m.
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If you wouldnt do that trade its up to you, but it is really a dam good trade and I bet Leafs would really think long and hard about that. Matthews has not gone over 80 points and you get 2 guys with 75 point seasons and a legit number 1 D

75 points? 40 point players pushing 30 for franchise centre who’s 23 lol this isn’t 2017 Shea is the only piece worth it and he’s not worth Matthews
Nov. 9, 2020 at 11:59 p.m.
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75 points? 40 point players pushing 30 for franchise centre who’s 23 lol this isn’t 2017 Shea is the only piece worth it and he’s not worth Matthews


Sorry, leafs are in win now mode, I changed my mind. Leafs would take this deal.IMO
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Nov. 10, 2020 at 12:03 a.m.
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Sorry, leafs are in win now mode, I changed my mind. Leafs would take this deal.IMO

Hahaha 😂 thank god you on capfriendly and not a GM Somewhere
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Nov. 10, 2020 at 12:07 a.m.
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Hahaha 😂 thank god you on capfriendly and not a GM Somewhere


You too. Because it sure makes the leafs way better.Karlsson is their number 1 center and Vegas will roll over the leafs. Take that package and run, no way Vegas does this trade though.
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Nov. 10, 2020 at 12:08 a.m.
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Sorry, leafs are in win now mode, I changed my mind. Leafs would take this deal.IMO


Do people know Theodore is a 1D and Marchessault and Karlsson are all top notch players and all 3 are signed for so cheap? 2 1st line guys and a 1st pairing guy combined make 25% more than Matthews makes
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Nov. 10, 2020 at 12:11 a.m.
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Do people know Theodore is a 1D and Marchessault and Karlsson are all top notch players and all 3 are signed for so cheap? 2 1st line guys and a 1st pairing guy combined make 25% more than Matthews makes


Best d in all the west are Petro and Shae Period. Some people dont watch Vegas much. That is 3 terrific players.
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Nov. 10, 2020 at 12:13 a.m.
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Do people know Theodore is a 1D and Marchessault and Karlsson are all top notch players and all 3 are signed for so cheap? 2 1st line guys and a 1st pairing guy combined make 25% more than Matthews makes


Also I take She over Petro now at this point in their career. Shae is only 25. How about you
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Nov. 10, 2020 at 12:15 a.m.
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This is basically what the leafs need to do, but would need another move to upgrade Campbell and some youth at 3c or 4c
Nov. 10, 2020 at 12:17 a.m.
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You don’t trade your superstar, Matthews, at 23 years old!! Even if it is for Theodore, William Karlsson and J.Marchassault. U just traded a $100 bill for three $20 dollar bills!!

And I’m a big Theodore fan!! I know he’s a top 3-5 D in the NHL!! And it’s not knocking William Karlsson and J.Marchssault either.its just none of them are A.Matthews!!

But I’ll take A.Matthews and the 4.5M cap space and sign 2 players at 2.25M each have a better team with Matthews and my 2 free agent signings. Or One for 3M and one for 1.5M plus Matthews.
Nov. 10, 2020 at 12:20 a.m.
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Also I take She over Petro now at this point in their career. Shae is only 25. How about you


Same here. I have Shea, Chabot and Werenski in the same tier. But Theodore has the best deal of them all
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Nov. 10, 2020 at 12:29 a.m.
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You don’t trade your superstar, Matthews, at 23 years old!! Even if it is for Theodore, William Karlsson and J.Marchassault. U just traded a $100 bill for three $20 dollar bills!!

And I’m a big Theodore fan!! I know he’s a top 3-5 D in the NHL!! And it’s not knocking William Karlsson and J.Marchssault either.its just none of them are A.Matthews!!

But I’ll take A.Matthews and the 4.5M cap space and sign 2 players at 2.25M each have a better team with Matthews and my 2 free agent signings. Or One for 3M and one for 1.5M plus Matthews.


When did top pairing D (Best D in the west) become a 20 $ bill????
Nov. 10, 2020 at 8:48 a.m.
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This is the closest deal Matthews deal I have seen so far and it has a lot of controversy. From Toronto’s point of view... it’s a tough decision.
On one hand, you’re losing a generational sniper in Matthews as well as the better goalie.
But on the other hand, you’re team is better. minus the goaltending....

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Marchessault-Karlsson-Nylander
Robertson-Thornton-Mikheyev
Engvall-Spezza-Simmonds

Muzzin-Theodore
Rielly-Brodie
Dermott-Lehtonen *Bogosian

Fleury
Campbell

You’d be crazy to say you wouldn’t enjoy watching that top 6 and top 4. they would be insanely good.

From VGK point of view. I don’t think there is even a chance here. Matthews and Stone would be a pretty good duo up front but losing two top 6 guys, and a legit 1D.... even for Auston Matthews. I don’t think that’d happen. what would their lines even look like after that? like their goaltending would better, but then you’d have to very capable starters splitting games. Their d, no doubt would be worse. and as good as Auston Matthews is and will be, he can’t make up for the absence of two players of their caliber.
Maybe lines like this?

Patches-Matthews-Stone?
Tuch-Kerfoot-Smith? only until Glass proves he’s ready.
Stephenson-Glass-Roy?
Carrier-Nosek-Reaves?

McNabb-Petro
Martinez-Holl
Holden-Whitecloud

Lehner
Andersen

Actually they don’t look too bad, but not an upgrade.
 
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