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Created by: Coleharborcrosby
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 25, 2021
Published: Jan. 25, 2021
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This team will be making trades in the near future. I have NO idea who it will be. This is what I would be doing.

Graves makes sense for both teams. Healthy scratch and falling out of favour in Colorado it makes sense for them to move him for a depth D and a pick. They won’t allow him to sit in the press box as that benefits no one. I think it’s better for them to go opposite ways now. They can use that pick or their other assets to acquire an impact TDL veteran. Getzlaf? Fleury? There will be good opportunities at the TDL this year and clearing cap on a guy who looks to be a healthy scratch makes sense. ZAR is an awesome player but hasn’t had injury luck (like anyone in Pitt). I don’t want to trade him but I think he benefits from a change of scenery. This deal helps both teams. Avs have capability of adding and going for a cup run. They won’t miss Graves with the talent they have on D. Riikola is a good insurance policy in case someone gets hurt.

Colin White is also getting pushed out of Ottawa. Good player and deserves better. Exact type of player Pitt wants. Fast, tenacious, skilled. Ottawa has a weak backend. MP would be a huge improvement. They have Sanderson but he is at least 2 years away. MP would be their 2LD for many years. I think he would make an amazing second pairing with fellow swede Brannstrom. This trade fills the need for each team. Both teams win. I think with Sceviour and Reilly the trade is fair. If Ott wants a pick/prospect too then so be it. A 3rd next year? Sure. Bjorkqvist? Sure. I think the value is fair as is because it helps both teams fill a need but if Ottawa wants a bonus because he is a former 1st then Pens can buck up and throw in another piece.

Reilly and POJ platoon the left side until Matheson returns.

Ruhwedel and Ceci platoon the right side. I actually really like Ruhwedel lately.

O Connor gets a shot on 3rd line. He has shown some scoring touch. That is a dangerous 3rd line now. You could also put any of Rust, Kapanen, Zucker with Sid/Geno. I think Zucker doesn’t fit well with Geno. He played well with Sid and Jake last year. Try that again.

You keep Janko/Tanev together. They have some real chemistry. But that isn’t a Stanley cup third line. It is now a Stanley Cup capable 4th line. Lafferty/Erod can fill in when needed.
This team is now ready to compete for a Stanley cup.
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Graves, Ryan
  2. 2021 6th round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach
  2. Riikola, Juuso
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
2.
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2021
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2022
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2023
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21$81,500,000$79,873,334$0$1,700,000$1,626,666

Roster

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C
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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$2,940,000$2,940,000
C, LW
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW
UFA - 2
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 5
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 3
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$3,166,667$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 2
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LD
UFA - 6
Taxi Squad
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$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000 ($175,000$175K$175,000$175K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1

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Jan. 26, 2021 at 10:06 a.m.
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Quoting: ChampEddy
Toews is who they basically replaced Graves with! Toews is significantly better than Graves...

The value is enough. I think its possible the Avs get this offer and say “Hey, let’s take this and use it to make our team better”


Toews is significantly better than Graves, but he was an RFA on a cap strapped team. Toews was also expected to come in at a $4m+ AAV, whereas Graves has cost certainty at $3m. Big difference.
Jan. 26, 2021 at 10:11 a.m.
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Quoting: ChampEddy
Ask your coach what he thinks.

Ask your GM if he thinks the deal allows them to improve their team. Ask Sakic if Graves is more valuable in the press box or in exchange for assets and cap space to improve the team.


This transaction allows for another transaction to improve this team. There will not be a bidding war to take on salary even for a player like Graves (who isn’t anything truly elite)

Trading a player you like is never easy. But in real life trading someone who is unhappy or not a fit makes the decision easier. Especially when you can improve your team from it.

This deal makes sense. I’m not saying they accept, because they might want to hold on for a while and see how the situation plays out. But the Pens offer this and I think if things continue as they are then Sakic does this in anticipation of other moves. Also, long-term it could allow them to keep more of their core players.


The fact that Graves is still on this team shows you what Bednar and Sakic think. If they thought a 2nd round pick would help the team Graves would already have been moved to any number of teams who would love to add a top 4 LHD at $3m aav.

As for the transaction, Avs can improve the team without moving Graves as well, as we have plenty of capspace and futures to use instead of worsening our defensive depth.

As for players being unhappy, there's no indication that Graves is unhappy or not a fit in Colorado. In fact, last year he specifically said around the trade deadline that it would suck to be traded away, because he really likes it in Denver.

Lastly, when you're a fan of another team and suggest a trade, and every single fan of the Avs repeatedly declines, why would you keep beating a dead horse and insisting that the trade is good? Avs fans unanimously disagree. Though I'm grateful that you've made an AGM with a trade proposal for one of our players, it's always interesting to see new ideas!! You might want to revise your offer though. smile
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Jan. 26, 2021 at 10:24 a.m.
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Here's a counter proposal for you @ChampEddy

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/412303
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Jan. 26, 2021 at 10:25 a.m.
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Quoting: Richard88
Here's a counter proposal for you @ChampEddy

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/412303


That doesnt even make sense. McCann maybe by himself.
Jan. 26, 2021 at 10:47 a.m.
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Quoting: ChampEddy
That doesnt even make sense. McCann maybe by himself.


You want a top 4D for McCann? Good luck

Gotta give to get
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Jan. 26, 2021 at 1:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Richard88
You want a top 4D for McCann? Good luck

Gotta give to get


McCann for a healthy scratch?
Jan. 26, 2021 at 1:29 p.m.
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Quoting: ChampEddy
McCann for a healthy scratch?


Lol, one healthy scratch doesn't mean that he's a bad player. With the depth the Avs have on D there's always going to be one guy benched.

Avs also wanted to see a bit more of Timmins, and also wanted a big RHS PKer while Johnson is out, so Pateryn played. But Pateryn has since been waived and sent to the taxi squad so Graves will be back in immediately.
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