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Created by: R_Marrus

Team: 2020-21 New York Rangers

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 9, 2021

Published: Feb. 9, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

The rangers have a lot of good pieces but are still far from contention. If you watch their games nowadays, they live and die by their top 6. This is a problem. Their bottom six is not committed to any given style of play which makes them extremely easy to play against.
Players like vatrano and bennett would be major upgrades as they play with far more grit and intensity than the players currently in those positions.
The idea with trading for ekholm is to get a solid 2way guy who can be an interim solution to some of our defensive struggles.
The reason I have strome scratched is I think we should trade him as his value is heavily reliant on playing with panarin and with the way that chytil was playing pre injury, strome could see himself relegated to our third line. A place where his value would plummet as his defensive shortcomings would become clear. (I do not know what teams might be interested so i didnt try simulating a trade)
The buchnevich trade is a tough one, he is a very good player and also one of my favorites, however, it does not make sense for the rangers to retain him beyond this year. He is on an expiring deal and will be looking to get paid. With wingers like panarin, kreider, laf, kakko, and eventually kravstov being able to play top 6 minutes, buch could be viewed as expendable.

Trades

NSH

Hájek, Libor
2021 3rd round pick (NYR)
2022 5th round pick (NYR)

NYR

Vatrano, Frank
2021 1st round pick (FLA)
2021 3rd round pick (FLA)
2022 2nd round pick (FLA)

Additional Details:

add in a 2022 third if he resigns. If he has over 60 points next season with the panthers then the 2022 third and second become a first.

FLA

Buyouts

Kevin Shattenkirk: $6,083,333
Henrik Lundqvist: $5,500,000
Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
Ryan Spooner: $300,000
Brad Richards: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Anthony Deangelo: $2,000,000 (0%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$81,500,000	$79,515,633	$0	$10,362,500	$1,984,367

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kreider, Chris $6,500,000$6,500,000 LW NMC UFA - 7	Zibanejad, Mika $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Lafrenière, Alexis $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LW, RW RFA - 3
Panarin, Artemi $11,642,857$11,642,857 LW NMC UFA - 6	Chytil, Filip $894,166$894,166 ($350,000$350K) C, LW UFA - 1	Kakko, Kaapo $925,000$925,000 ($2,650,000$3M) RW RFA - 2
Vatrano, Frank $2,533,333$2,533,333 LW, RW UFA - 2	Bennett, Sam $2,550,000$2,550,000 C UFA - 1	Gauthier, Julien $863,333$863,333 ($300,000$300K) RW UFA - 1
Lemieux, Brendan $1,550,000$1,550,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Blackwell, Colin $725,000$725,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Rooney, Kevin $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Ekholm, Mattias $3,750,000$3,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Trouba, Jacob $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 6	Georgiev, Alexandar $2,425,000$2,425,000 G UFA - 2
Lindgren, Ryan $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) LD RFA - 1	Fox, Adam $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 2	Shesterkin, Igor $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) G UFA - 1
Miller, K'Andre $925,000$925,000 ($300,000$300K) LD RFA - 3	Bitetto, Anthony $737,500$737,500 LD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Smith, Brendan $4,350,000$4,350,000 LD/RD, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Strome, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 RW, C UFA - 2
Johnson, Jack $1,150,000$1,150,000 LD UFA - 1
Di Giuseppe, Phillip $700,000$700,000 LW UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Huska, Adam $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 1
Richards, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) ($500,000$500K) C, RW UFA - 2
Newell, Patrick $792,500$792,500 ($0$0$0$0) ($132,500$132K) C, LW UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Panarin, A.		Zibanejad, M.		Kreider, C.
	Fox, A.		Lafrenière, A.

Power Play 2
Gauthier, J.		Chytil, F.		Kakko, K.
	Trouba, J.		Miller, K.

Penalty Kill 1
	Bennett, S.	Vatrano, F.
	Ekholm, M.	Trouba, J.

Penalty Kill 2
	Blackwell, C.	Rooney, K.
	Lindgren, R.	Fox, A.

Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:35 p.m.

Ragsandbluesfan

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Not nearly enough for ekholm

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Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:37 p.m.

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There's no way Hájek should be the best piece in a package for Ekholm.

Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:39 p.m.

R_Marrus

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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan

Not nearly enough for ekholm

was thinking they might blow everything up and not look for as much value. But definitely felt cheap looking back

Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:40 p.m.

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You'd have to use the Vatrano package to get Ekholm. Which, personally, I would absolutely do.

Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:40 p.m.

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Quoting: gmgb

There's no way Hájek should be the best piece in a package for Ekholm.

was thinking they might accept a cheaper offer because they could decide to blow everything up. but i guess it was definitely a cheaper offer

Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:41 p.m.

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Quoting: tormundgiantsbane

You'd have to use the Vatrano package to get Ekholm. Which, personally, I would absolutely do.

What if you added strome. do you think that could make the ekholm deal more acceptable

Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:46 p.m.

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Quoting: R_Marrus

was thinking they might accept a cheaper offer because they could decide to blow everything up. but i guess it was definitely a cheaper offer

Ekholm would be in high demand if NSH puts him up for trade. If anything, a bidding war could drive his price past more than he's worth.

Quoting: R_Marrus

What if you added strome. do you think that could make the ekholm deal more acceptable

That actually makes it worse for NSH. Strome's cap hit is too high for his production, and he doesn't fit in to a rebuild at all.

Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:47 p.m.

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Quoting: R_Marrus

What if you added strome. do you think that could make the ekholm deal more acceptable

Unfortunately I don't think so. Ekholm is a top 4 D and would probably be a 1D on the current Rangers team. I think it starts with Buchnevich, however I didn't realize he is a UFA next summer (2022)... in that case, I think it's probably best to stay away from Ekholm, especially since we are not ready to contend yet. We have guys like Miller and Lindgren already and Zach Jones and Matthew Robertson coming up soon. I think the left side is probably fine and he'd be a UFA by the time we are ready to seriously contend.

Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:56 p.m.

VijayPatel11

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so... we are trading 2 1sts and a roster player for buchnevich?? nty

Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:57 p.m.

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Quoting: gmgb

Ekholm would be in high demand if NSH puts him up for trade. If anything, a bidding war could drive his price past more than he's worth.

That actually makes it worse for NSH. Strome's cap hit is too high for his production, and he doesn't fit in to a rebuild at all.

fair

Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:58 p.m.

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Quoting: VijayPatel11

so... we are trading 2 1sts and a roster player for buchnevich?? nty

2 firsts and a depth forward for a potential top line forward and a potential top 4 defenseman is a fair deal.

Feb. 9, 2021 at 1:07 p.m.

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Quoting: R_Marrus

2 firsts and a depth forward for a potential top line forward and a potential top 4 defenseman is a fair deal.

Buchnevich is not a potential top line forward... he scored 46 points with Zibanejad and Panarin
Matthew Robertson could end up being a top 4 Dman, sure! But it's not guaranteed.
Vatrano is not a "depth forward," he can score goals while playing a gritty game and is useful for any team's 3rd line

Feb. 9, 2021 at 1:08 p.m.

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Quoting: tormundgiantsbane

It is hard to explain, but I think that ekholms contract situation, style of play and leadership will help us reach actual contention much quicker. But unlike Trouba, we wont be committed to him for many seasons. He serves his duty in the next year and a half then heads elsewhere and is replaced by one of our many prospects. While the rangers have the skill that is necessary to contend in a season or 2, we do not have the maturity. Our third period collapses and the horror show that was the playoffs last year show that we still need to learn how to play in playoff style games. I think that Ekholm can both show the young guys how to approach these high intensity and physical moments. Additionally, I think his skill can put us in a place where we play in more of these high intensity games. Thus, when his contract expires, the still young roster will be well prepared for what hopefully will be numerous deep playoff runs and maybe a cup or 2.

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Feb. 9, 2021 at 1:14 p.m.

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Quoting: VijayPatel11

he didnt play with panarin at all. He did play with zibanejad and kreider (this is still very good). He also missed some games due to injury, this injury came at a pretty terrible moment (it killed his momentum). He also put up these numbers while only getting minutes on a very sub par second pp unit. He has the offensive skill to be a top line forward. And I tried to compare this deal to the kapanen to pittsburgh deal. I may have been a little cheap but I think it is pretty close.

Feb. 9, 2021 at 1:15 p.m.

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Quoting: R_Marrus

That's a good point, he could be instrumental in getting the core ready for contention, even if he's not around for the actual payoff. I guess I would be down then. Just depends what the return would have to be. If it's Buchnevich and Robertson, honestly I would probably do it. If they start asking for other futures like Krav, it's not happening for me haha.

Feb. 9, 2021 at 1:17 p.m.

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Edited Feb. 9, 2021 at 1:22 p.m.

Quoting: tormundgiantsbane

Agreed. I was originally looking at someone like Vince Dunn, but he is too valuable to only have him short term. Plus we have players who can take the role that he would (and that we would have to pay him to do). They just are not quite ready. I think that between his age and term and likely desire for a raise (ekholm), we could potentially get a very solid deal.

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Feb. 9, 2021 at 1:29 p.m.

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I think that is not enough for Nashville to even return your call. As for Florida Buchnevich for Vatrano and a 3rd is much closer than this ridiculous package you put together.

Feb. 9, 2021 at 1:33 p.m.

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Quoting: imawesome

I think that is not enough for Nashville to even return your call. As for Florida Buchnevich for Vatrano and a 3rd is much closer than this ridiculous package you put together.

I get that the deal i have above is not great. But I think that you are severely overlooking buchenvich's skill. He has incredible offensive iq and skill. I consider him more valuable (with the extension) than kapanen. Who got a first and numerous players. So my thought was first + for buch. and then by adding a very solid prospect like robertson, it could be close value. maybe drop the third round pick. But i dont think its as awful as you outline it to be.

Feb. 9, 2021 at 1:39 p.m.

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Quoting: R_Marrus

Also with the ekholm deal, they will likely accept lower value because they will struggle to protect him in this summer's expansion draft. (they need to protect fabbro, ellis, and josi).

Feb. 9, 2021 at 1:45 p.m.

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Quoting: R_Marrus

Maybe, but I think if you get a 1st you won't be getting a solid NHL player as well

Feb. 9, 2021 at 2:05 p.m.

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Maybe, but I think if you get a 1st you won't be getting a solid NHL player as well

See the kapanen deal. Was kapanen (who I think is slightly less valuable than buchnevich) and 2 ahl guys for the 15th overall pick, a depth guy, an ahl guy, and a solid prospect.
So buch and a better prospect for two firsts and a third liner does not seem that awful. maybe it should be a first and a second. But it is still close

Feb. 9, 2021 at 2:24 p.m.

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Quoting: R_Marrus

that deal went through because JR is a bad GM, not because kapanen is so valuable

Feb. 9, 2021 at 2:34 p.m.

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Quoting: VijayPatel11

that deal went through because JR is a bad GM, not because kapanen is so valuable

Fair. But still you cant expect the rangers to trade a high end second liner who has shown that he can be a top line guy for a solid third liner and a third round pick. Gorton is not stupid

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