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Armchair-GM
Jul. 18, 2021 at 11:38 a.m.
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horvat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aecliptic</b></div><div>Hes excellent on faceoffs, which is better than anything we got which is already an upgrade.</div></div>
I agree. Also we were looking at eichel who IK is much better overall but isnt great defensively and being paid far more than horvat will want. Also buch will want 6.5+ im guessing
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 18, 2021 at 11:37 a.m.
Thread:
horvat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aecliptic</b></div><div>If we trade Buch, it could be interesting to see Gauthier on the 3rd line under Gallant however we still need a solid 2-way center for the 3rd line. I believe Barron will be that guy in a year or 2, but it would be nice to have a stop gap veteran in there until then.</div></div>
I mean ik strome isnt 2-way but he can be the intermediate option. Also apparently barron has shown that he projects as more of a winger in the nhl. Could potentially play goodrow at 3-c if we deal strome at deadline.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 17, 2021 at 11:03 p.m.
Thread:
horvat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aecliptic</b></div><div>Possibly. Its an overpay on our part, but thats what it will take to get a legitimate young C. There arent a lot of teams out there with a need on the right side so I hope Drury can make something happen when the freeze is done.</div></div>
for sure. am interested to see who we protected and hope we can keep rooney and gauthier. Rooney so solid on pk. and i think gauthier could take huge strides under gallant
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 17, 2021 at 10:57 p.m.
Thread:
horvat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aecliptic</b></div><div>I was talking to the other guy about how every prospect or chip we have is worth so much more than they actually are.
As far as the trade goes, I personally think its not enough. If the 4th round pick was a 1st round pick I think it would make sense for VAN.
I definitely want to move Chytil in the off-season. The down side is hes not really a C, so it doesnt really fill a hole for them. However JT Miller can play C, and Chytil can slot into the LW spot he opens up.</div></div>
true. Maybe I overvalued chytil a bit... maybe you do chytil + buch for horvat and fourth. IDK
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 17, 2021 at 10:47 p.m.
Thread:
horvat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Rocket</b></div><div>Moves in which the Canucks do not get better. Trading bo for a winger fills one holes but then immediately opens another</div></div>
gotcha. Thats why I added chytil. You upgrade on wing and get a 2c who you can pay under 4 mil for 2-3 years. IDK. I based everything off the reports of the rangers trying for a buch for horvat trade. but added in the chytil part to make it a more favorable deal for the canucks. Maybe a third team is necessary... send chytil there and someone more established to vancouver. idk
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 17, 2021 at 10:44 p.m.
Thread:
horvat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Igoat_Shesterkin</b></div><div>I'd do that in a heart beat. I'd prob do buch a first a B tier prospect for him</div></div>
they would probably like one of our many young dmen like robertson or something because they are lacking on defensive depth and have so much money tied up in a few players. could use someone like zac jones...
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 17, 2021 at 10:44 p.m.
Thread:
horvat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Rocket</b></div><div>Vam declines, I’m certain. No chance they ever trade horvat in a lateral move</div></div>
wdym by lateral move?
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 17, 2021 at 10:43 p.m.
Thread:
horvat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The trade that did not go down, which was rumored, was Buchnevich for Horvat, one for one. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NYR?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">#NYR</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Canucks?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">#Canucks</a></p>— David Shapiro (<a href="/users/BlueSeatBlogs" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@BlueSeatBlogs</a>) <a href="https://twitter.com/BlueSeatBlogs/status/1416542543123259402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">July 17, 2021</a></blockquote>
Rangers were going to do it but Canucks pulled out of the trade</div></div>
thats why I added the picks and chytil part. I felt it made the deal something vancouver would be happier with
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 17, 2021 at 10:43 p.m.
Thread:
horvat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aecliptic</b></div><div>Probably? Youve got a serious over-valuing problem.</div></div>
on the outside we are overpaying for horvat. i agree. However, if you look at the lines, where does chytil slot in. I'm fine to overpay a little if we are ditching a player who has no longterm role on the team.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 9, 2021 at 2:34 p.m.
Thread:
a couple trades- please read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VijayPatel11</b></div><div>that deal went through because JR is a bad GM, not because kapanen is so valuable</div></div>
Fair. But still you cant expect the rangers to trade a high end second liner who has shown that he can be a top line guy for a solid third liner and a third round pick. Gorton is not stupid
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 9, 2021 at 2:05 p.m.
Thread:
a couple trades- please read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>imawesome</b></div><div>Maybe, but I think if you get a 1st you won't be getting a solid NHL player as well</div></div>
See the kapanen deal. Was kapanen (who I think is slightly less valuable than buchnevich) and 2 ahl guys for the 15th overall pick, a depth guy, an ahl guy, and a solid prospect.
So buch and a better prospect for two firsts and a third liner does not seem that awful. maybe it should be a first and a second. But it is still close
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 9, 2021 at 1:39 p.m.
Thread:
a couple trades- please read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>R_Marrus</b></div><div>I get that the deal i have above is not great. But I think that you are severely overlooking buchenvich's skill. He has incredible offensive iq and skill. I consider him more valuable (with the extension) than kapanen. Who got a first and numerous players. So my thought was first + for buch. and then by adding a very solid prospect like robertson, it could be close value. maybe drop the third round pick. But i dont think its as awful as you outline it to be.</div></div>
Also with the ekholm deal, they will likely accept lower value because they will struggle to protect him in this summer's expansion draft. (they need to protect fabbro, ellis, and josi).
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 9, 2021 at 1:33 p.m.
Thread:
a couple trades- please read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>imawesome</b></div><div>I think that is not enough for Nashville to even return your call. As for Florida Buchnevich for Vatrano and a 3rd is much closer than this ridiculous package you put together.</div></div>
I get that the deal i have above is not great. But I think that you are severely overlooking buchenvich's skill. He has incredible offensive iq and skill. I consider him more valuable (with the extension) than kapanen. Who got a first and numerous players. So my thought was first + for buch. and then by adding a very solid prospect like robertson, it could be close value. maybe drop the third round pick. But i dont think its as awful as you outline it to be.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 9, 2021 at 1:17 p.m.
Thread:
a couple trades- please read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tormundgiantsbane</b></div><div>That's a good point, he could be instrumental in getting the core ready for contention, even if he's not around for the actual payoff. I guess I would be down then. Just depends what the return would have to be. If it's Buchnevich and Robertson, honestly I would probably do it. If they start asking for other futures like Krav, it's not happening for me haha.</div></div>
Agreed. I was originally looking at someone like Vince Dunn, but he is too valuable to only have him short term. Plus we have players who can take the role that he would (and that we would have to pay him to do). They just are not quite ready. I think that between his age and term and likely desire for a raise (ekholm), we could potentially get a very solid deal.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 9, 2021 at 1:14 p.m.
Thread:
a couple trades- please read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VijayPatel11</b></div><div>Buchnevich is not a potential top line forward... he scored 46 points with Zibanejad and Panarin
Matthew Robertson could end up being a top 4 Dman, sure! But it's not guaranteed.
Vatrano is not a "depth forward," he can score goals while playing a gritty game and is useful for any team's 3rd line</div></div>
he didnt play with panarin at all. He did play with zibanejad and kreider (this is still very good). He also missed some games due to injury, this injury came at a pretty terrible moment (it killed his momentum). He also put up these numbers while only getting minutes on a very sub par second pp unit. He has the offensive skill to be a top line forward. And I tried to compare this deal to the kapanen to pittsburgh deal. I may have been a little cheap but I think it is pretty close.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 9, 2021 at 1:08 p.m.
Thread:
a couple trades- please read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tormundgiantsbane</b></div><div>Unfortunately I don't think so. Ekholm is a top 4 D and would probably be a 1D on the current Rangers team. I think it starts with Buchnevich, however I didn't realize he is a UFA next summer (2022)... in that case, I think it's probably best to stay away from Ekholm, especially since we are not ready to contend yet. We have guys like Miller and Lindgren already and Zach Jones and Matthew Robertson coming up soon. I think the left side is probably fine and he'd be a UFA by the time we are ready to seriously contend.</div></div>
It is hard to explain, but I think that ekholms contract situation, style of play and leadership will help us reach actual contention much quicker. But unlike Trouba, we wont be committed to him for many seasons. He serves his duty in the next year and a half then heads elsewhere and is replaced by one of our many prospects. While the rangers have the skill that is necessary to contend in a season or 2, we do not have the maturity. Our third period collapses and the horror show that was the playoffs last year show that we still need to learn how to play in playoff style games. I think that Ekholm can both show the young guys how to approach these high intensity and physical moments. Additionally, I think his skill can put us in a place where we play in more of these high intensity games. Thus, when his contract expires, the still young roster will be well prepared for what hopefully will be numerous deep playoff runs and maybe a cup or 2.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:58 p.m.
Thread:
a couple trades- please read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VijayPatel11</b></div><div>so... we are trading 2 1sts and a roster player for buchnevich?? nty</div></div>
2 firsts and a depth forward for a potential top line forward and a potential top 4 defenseman is a fair deal.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:57 p.m.
Thread:
a couple trades- please read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>Ekholm would be in high demand if NSH puts him up for trade. If anything, a bidding war could drive his price past more than he's worth.
That actually makes it worse for NSH. Strome's cap hit is too high for his production, and he doesn't fit in to a rebuild at all.</div></div>
fair
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:41 p.m.
Thread:
a couple trades- please read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tormundgiantsbane</b></div><div>You'd have to use the Vatrano package to get Ekholm. Which, personally, I would absolutely do.</div></div>
What if you added strome. do you think that could make the ekholm deal more acceptable
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:40 p.m.
Thread:
a couple trades- please read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>There's no way Hájek should be the best piece in a package for Ekholm.</div></div>
was thinking they might accept a cheaper offer because they could decide to blow everything up. but i guess it was definitely a cheaper offer
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 9, 2021 at 12:39 p.m.
Thread:
a couple trades- please read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>Not nearly enough for ekholm</div></div>
was thinking they might blow everything up and not look for as much value. But definitely felt cheap looking back
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 1, 2021 at 11:00 p.m.
Thread:
Potential Idea- need to fix bottom six and defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>Play Jack Johnson.</div></div>
That would be unfair to the rest of the league.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 1, 2021 at 3:27 p.m.
Thread:
New York Rangers appropriate salaries
Johnson should be paying us for his performances thus far. Also I might boost chytil and drop strome. Had chytil not gotten hurt he would likely have taken over at second line center.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 1, 2021 at 2:27 p.m.
Thread:
Potential Idea- need to fix bottom six and defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>" we need every player and line to have a job that they can do well" I kinda understand your point but professional hockey isn't exactly played that well. Players have to offensive and defensive on the same shift. Certainly every player have to average to good on a few aspects their game.</div></div>
I understand your point that everyone needs to do everything, but when you look at our lines they don't really make sense. Is our third line a physical line, is it a scoring line, is it a 2 way line. The answer to all these questions is no. So what do they actually do other than fill time. I am not looking to put together a line of all grinders or 2 way guys or playmakers, I am looking to create a line that will help us do something. If we can send our third line out and know they will shut down an opponents top line, or lay a couple big hits to change momentum, etc. we will be a much better team. Looking back at the team that made the cup, everytime players like Derrick dorsett, boyle, and dom moore were on the ice you new we would not be scored on. They would win every faceoff and be very composed and play very responsibly.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 1, 2021 at 2:23 p.m.
Thread:
Potential Idea- need to fix bottom six and defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KakkoForMauriceRichardAward</b></div><div>WIN rejects, this doesn't do anything for them.
We reject the STL trade. At best Dunn's a number 4 while Buch can be a top line winger with the right center</div></div>
I know the winnipeg trade is flawed, we would likely need a third party to send strome and the inclusion of a prospect. And with the dunn part. Vince dunn is a very good 2 way defenseman who would seriously help our defense. We would have 2 borderline shutdown lines. And I know buch's potential, but you have to look at the abundance of wingers we have who will likely be top 6 guys in the future. If we trade buch tomorrow, our top 6 will definitely become worse in the short term, but it will give kakko and laf the ice time they need to develop. Additionally, we would be so much more solid on the back end.
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