Landeskog for S.Reinhart ! ! ! ! !

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Created by: Caphead

Team: 2016-17 Colorado Avalanche

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 15, 2016

Published: Dec. 15, 2016

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Now I know Sabres fans maybe wouldn't like giving up Reinhart but I think Landeskog would be a better fit for a top line LW and he can replace Kane.

For Avs fans I think this gives them a younger player with (IMO) more potential and he can slot into RW or C.

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Originally I was going to do a straight up trade Landy for Reinhart but forgot the latter is on his ELC, so I added in Kane to even out salaries. But keep in mind Kane is not worth that much anymore. In addition to Buffalo getting Landy, they get two prospects; Nantel (B-), Bourke (C+), and a 2nd.

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$73,000,000	$65,814,168	$0	$4,000,000	$7,185,832

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Duchene, Matt $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, C UFA - 3	MacKinnon, Nathan $6,300,000$6,300,000 C UFA - 7	Rantanen, Mikko $894,167$894,167 ($500,000$500K) RW, C UFA - 3
Kane, Evander $5,250,000$5,250,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Reinhart, Sam $894,167$894,167 ($2,650,000$3M) RW UFA - 2	Comeau, Blake $2,400,000$2,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Grigorenko, Mikhail $1,300,000$1,300,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Söderberg, Carl $4,750,000$4,750,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 4	Iginla, Jarome $2,666,667$2,666,667 RW NMC UFA - 1
		Colborne, Joe $2,500,000$2,500,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2
Bourque, Rene $650,000$650,000 LW UFA - 1	Mitchell, John $1,800,000$1,800,000 C UFA - 1
	Martinsen, Andreas $640,000$640,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Tyutin, Fedor $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 4	Pickard, Calvin $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 2
Beauchemin, Francois $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 2	Johnson, Erik $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 7	Varlamov, Semyon $5,900,000$5,900,000 G UFA - 3
Zadorov, Nikita $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) LD/RD UFA - 1	Wiercioch, Patrick $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1
Gelinas, Eric $1,575,000$1,575,000 LD UFA - 1	Goloubef, Cody $750,000$750,000 RD UFA - 1

Dec. 15, 2016 at 4:30 p.m.

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Hell yeah! I like this trade, sign me up!

What about sending Bigras for Kulikov as well? Zadorov is still kinda figuring things out and Avs could use a more developed NHL player than waiting for Bigras. Just a thought.

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Dec. 15, 2016 at 4:34 p.m.

coga16

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I could get behind this trade in principle but would want nothing to do with E.Kane,

Also Peterman Kulikov is a UFA and sort of sucks. Why waste Bigras in a trade when hes going to be on the market in a few months

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Dec. 15, 2016 at 4:37 p.m.

mikeyscav

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The deal honestly seems pretty fair to me. Buffalo has a strong pipeline at C and RW but weak at LW so moving Reinhart for a top line LW makes sense. I think Buffalo could look for a little bit more from Colorado because they think so highly of Reinhart and even Kane (I know he's unpopular among fans) but I'm not sure what that would be.

Also I just did research on the two prospects and I think Buffalo would want one of them coming back to be a defenseman, specifically A leftie

Dec. 15, 2016 at 4:41 p.m.

coga16

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Quoting: mikeyscav

I see it the other way around, Kane has diminished value bc of his off ice issues and the fact he cant stay healthy, its been something like 4 seasons in a row he hasnt played more than 60 games correct? A 2nd & Nantal is pretty fair compensation for a player that has a lot of warts on him

Dec. 15, 2016 at 4:44 p.m.

mikeyscav

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Cogs I see that a lot, but his off-ice behavior was really just stupid in Winnipeg and in Buffalo they have been more serious (sexual assault things) but those were never proved to be true accusations. He just needs to grow up and put himself in better positions and I think his last scare finally woke him up. Injuries tend to be a problem with him as well but he still has put up solid numbers when h has been on the ice. Slow start to this year but has really gotten hot as of late with 7 points (4G) in last 8 games

Dec. 15, 2016 at 4:52 p.m.

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Quoting: mikeyscav

High risk high reward with him for sure but I have watched him a lot over the years, especially in winnipeg. he plays with an edge and it helps you as much as it burns you. I just cant get over his shot, he plays with way too long of a stick which helps him with that booming shot of his, but he is always going high and missing the net. The amount of Kane zone entries, high shot, ringing around the glass and back out of the zone I have watched was crazy. Not sure has he simplified his game or does he still do that high shot nonsense?

Dec. 15, 2016 at 4:53 p.m.

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Yeah true to everything said here. Like I said, I was thinking to do Landy for Reinhart but it didn't work out, so opted to throw Kane in there. The thing is with that is Buffalo finally gets rid of him and gets something in return. And Colorado takes a risk with him but if it doesn't work, at least it was very cheap.

Also as a side note; I think Kane becomes a Semin in terms of that he won't be able to keep up with the play and goals won't come "as easy" as in his first couple years.

Dec. 15, 2016 at 4:57 p.m.

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Quoting: coga16

Quoting: mikeyscav
Cogs I see that a lot, but his off-ice behavior was really just stupid in Winnipeg and in Buffalo they have been more serious (sexual assault things) but those were never proved to be true accusations. He just needs to grow up and put himself in better positions and I think his last scare finally woke him up. Injuries tend to be a problem with him as well but he still has put up solid numbers when h has been on the ice. Slow start to this year but has really gotten hot as of late with 7 points (4G) in last 8 games

High risk high reward with him for sure but I have watched him a lot over the years, especially in winnipeg. he plays with an edge and it helps you as much as it burns you. I just cant get over his shot, he plays with way too long of a stick which helps him with that booming shot of his, but he is always going high and missing the net. The amount of Kane zone entries, high shot, ringing around the glass and back out of the zone I have watched was crazy. Not sure has he simplified his game or does he still do that high shot nonsense?

He seems to have simplified that aspect this season, but maybe too much. Doesn't do that as much anymore but I think Bylsma has been forcing him to play the grinding on the boards more and going to the net and look for rebounds more. He also doesn't carry the puck into the zone as much as last season but he doesn't need to since Eichel is doing it haha. I honestly would like to see him shoot more then he has at times this year though. Finding a happy medium

Dec. 15, 2016 at 5:00 p.m.

mikeyscav

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Quoting: Caphead

Buffalo would be happy with this but would want a defensive prospect. Any idea on who Colorado could throw in instead of the two you put in? And Kane is no Semin. Kane has actually been able to keep his numbers quite even the last few seasons but I think he has another level still. He also does a whole heck of a lot more for a team besides goals, which Semin never did

Dec. 15, 2016 at 5:04 p.m.

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Quoting: mikeyscav

Quoting: Caphead
Yeah true to everything said here. Like I said, I was thinking to do Landy for Reinhart but it didn't work out, so opted to throw Kane in there. The thing is with that is Buffalo finally gets rid of him and gets something in return. And Colorado takes a risk with him but if it doesn't work, at least it was very cheap.

Also as a side note; I think Kane becomes a Semin in terms of that he won't be able to keep up with the play and goals won't come "as easy" as in his first couple years.
Buffalo would be happy with this but would want a defensive prospect. Any idea on who Colorado could throw in instead of the two you put in? And Kane is no Semin. Kane has actually been able to keep his numbers quite even the last few seasons but I think he has another level still. He also does a whole heck of a lot more for a team besides goals, which Semin never did

Will Butcher probably would be interesting to you. NCAA at the U of Denver. There is rumblings that he might not want to sign with the Avs (which I dont believe bc the Denver post likes to troll the fan base) He is pretty legit prospect. Siemens has been solid in the AHL again this year but sadly I think he will never get a shot with the Avs either.

Bigras, Meloche are pretty untouchable in terms of Avs prospects

Dec. 15, 2016 at 5:14 p.m.

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Quoting: mikeyscav

Yeah I wasn't necessarily comparing the two in terms of style and what not, but yeah Kane could do a heck of a lot more than Semin.

Dec. 15, 2016 at 5:18 p.m.

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I'm going to make a post for this trade (slightly revised) right now btw for Buffalos side. Credits to you of course lol

Dec. 15, 2016 at 5:22 p.m.

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I'm going to make a post for this trade (slightly revised) right now btw for Buffalos side. Credits to you of course lol

haha thanks.

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