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Created by: JumboFett
Initial Creation Date: Feb 24, 2021
Published: Feb 24 at 8:28
Team: 2021-22 San Jose Sharks
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bennett, Sam2$2,000,000
Donato, Ryan2$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Marleau, Patrick1$750,000
Dubnyk, Devan1$2,000,000
Claesson, Fredrik1$750,000
Goodrow, Barclay3$1,250,000
Trades
SJS
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Bennett, Sam [RFA Rights]
CGY
  1. Meier, Timo
  2. Gambrell, Dylan [RFA Rights]
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. Virtanen, Jake
VAN
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (SJS)
Buyouts
  • Martin Jones: $1,916,667
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
2022
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
MIN
2023
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
SJS
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,043,334$0$667,500$2,456,666
Left WingCenterRight Wing
SJS
Kane, Evander
$7,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
SJS
Couture, Logan
$8,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
SJS
Labanc, Kevin
$4,725,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
SJS
Chekhovich, Ivan
$776,667
C, LW
RFA - 1
CGY
Monahan, Sean
$6,375,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
SJS
Hertl, Tomas
$5,625,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
SJS
Leonard, John
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Bennett, Sam
$2,000,000
LW, C, RW
RFA
VAN
Virtanen, Jake
$2,550,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
SJS
Marleau, Patrick
$750,000
LW, C
UFA
SJS
Donato, Ryan
$1,500,000
LW, C
RFA
Goodrow, Barclay
$1,250,000
LW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
SJS
Ferraro, Mario
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
SJS
Burns, Brent
$8,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
SJS
Dubnyk, Devan
$2,000,000
G
UFA
SJS
Knyzhov, Nikolai
$796,667
LD/RD
RFA - 1
SJS
Karlsson, Erik
$11,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
SJS
Melnichuk, Alexei
$925,000
G
RFA - 1
SJS
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
$7,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 5
SJS
Simek, Radim
$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
SJS
Claesson, Fredrik
$750,000
LD
UFA
SJS
Chmelevski, Alexander
$778,333
C
RFA - 1
SJS
Middleton, Jacob
$725,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Feb 24 at 8:29
#1
Joined: Aug 2019
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Why would we want Monahan? He doesnt make the team better and we should be tanking and getting younger if we trade Meier
Feb 24 at 8:31
#2
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 3,547
Likes: 1,266
No thanks-Flames
Feb 24 at 8:34
#3
Thread Starter
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 1,276
Likes: 289
Quoting: papishark
Why would we want Monahan? He doesnt make the team better and we should be tanking and getting younger if we trade Meier


I disagree hard on the idea of tanking. There's never a guarantee that a team can pull out of a tank, and the Sharks shouldn't ever lose by choice.
Feb 24 at 8:37
#4
CGY
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 4,426
Likes: 1,418
No take backs!
Feb 24 at 8:41
#5
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 2,234
Likes: 708
No tank but no reaching on bad deals again (Thanks EKG 65 the no heart wonder)!
Feb 24 at 8:42
#6
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 2,234
Likes: 708
And i love Marleau and want him back again... but who else wants Marleau back on the team?
Feb 24 at 8:54
#7
Thread Starter
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
No tank but no reaching on bad deals again (Thanks EKG 65 the no heart wonder)!


What part is the bad deal? Looks like upside for everyone. The only risk is Virtanen, but I think he'd do incredibly well in our system and culture.

Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
And i love Marleau and want him back again... but who else wants Marleau back on the team?


I would love Marleau back. He's great for the locker room, he'd defensively responsible, he's reliably like 0.25ppg on a minimum contract, he's a legacy Shark... Lot's of upside.
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Feb 24 at 9:11
#8
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 2,234
Likes: 708
Quoting: JumboFett
What part is the bad deal? Looks like upside for everyone. The only risk is Virtanen, but I think he'd do incredibly well in our system and culture.


I would love Marleau back. He's great for the locker room, he'd defensively responsible, he's reliably like 0.25ppg on a minimum contract, he's a legacy Shark... Lot's of upside.


No the no tank was to the comments not the roster, and Marleau has been playing better and better each game there have been easily 5/6 solid scoring chances the last few games where he was just unlucky, those will start to go in here as the season progresses!!!
Feb 24 at 9:20
#9
PeterForsberg21
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 466
Likes: 96
VAN can get a better return than that
Feb 24 at 9:51
#10
New pfp, same moron
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 3,189
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Quoting: PeterForsberg21
VAN can get a better return than that


Can they? Unless we're talking about putting Virtanen into a bigger trade to sweeten things, I have a hard time believing any team would pay much more than this for a 24 year old who doesn't play defense, has terrible all-around metrics and 1 point in 18 games this season. That's just me though.
Feb 24 at 9:55
#11
PeterForsberg21
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 466
Likes: 96
Quoting: RawZuccSauce420
Can they? Unless we're talking about putting Virtanen into a bigger trade to sweeten things, I have a hard time believing any team would pay much more than this for a 24 year old who doesn't play defense, has terrible all-around metrics and 1 point in 18 games this season. That's just me though.


I don't see the team trading him away when his value is very low, they have spent to much time with his development and being patient with him to turn his game around. Most likely scenario will be for another player looking for a change of scenery (Sam Bennett etc.)
Feb 24 at 10:18
#12
New pfp, same moron
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 3,189
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Quoting: PeterForsberg21
I don't see the team trading him away when his value is very low, they have spent to much time with his development and being patient with him to turn his game around. Most likely scenario will be for another player looking for a change of scenery (Sam Bennett etc.)


Fair enough. I don’t disagree with any of those points and a change of scenery type of trade does make a lot of sense.
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Feb 24 at 11:37
#13
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 83
Likes: 9
What about hertl
Feb 24 at 11:59
#14
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Quoting: PeterForsberg21
VAN can get a better return than that


They totally could've gotten a 2nd+ if they traded him in the offseason, but they didn't. They signed for too much money and he's under-performed in their system, so now they'd be lucky to get a 3rd.
Feb 25 at 12:01
#15
Thread Starter
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 1,276
Likes: 289
Quoting: MyBaby
What about hertl


Not likely at all. Hertl is the most popular player on the team and probably the next captain.
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Feb 25 at 12:02
#16
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 83
Likes: 9
Quoting: JumboFett
Not likely at all. Hertl is the most popular player on the team and probably the next captain.


Yea that what I assumed.
Feb 25 at 6:01
#17
PeterForsberg21
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 466
Likes: 96
Quoting: JumboFett
They totally could've gotten a 2nd+ if they traded him in the offseason, but they didn't. They signed for too much money and he's under-performed in their system, so now they'd be lucky to get a 3rd.


I agree. But the amount of time they have invested into him I just can't see the organization shipping him out when his value is an all time low.
Feb 25 at 6:19
#18
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Quoting: PeterForsberg21
I agree. But the amount of time they have invested into him I just can't see the organization shipping him out when his value is an all time low.


They'd be crazy not to get him off their books ASAP, but making wise, timely decisions doesn't seem to be in their wheelhouse these days.

Toffoli > Virtanen
Markstrom > Holtby
Tanev > Schmidt

For the first time ever last post-season I was excited for and proud of VAN. Now I'm just another witness to their rapid, abrupt and unceremonious downfall. I don't get it!
Feb 25 at 6:21
#19
PeterForsberg21
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 466
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Quoting: JumboFett
They'd be crazy not to get him off their books ASAP, but making wise, timely decisions doesn't seem to be in their wheelhouse these days.

Toffoli > Virtanen
Markstrom > Holtby
Tanev > Schmidt

For the first time ever last post-season I was excited for and proud of VAN. Now I'm just another witness to their rapid, abrupt and unceremonious downfall. I don't get it!


Toffoli they should have kept. The rest VAN couldn't afford to hand out massive contracts when Pettersson , Hughes are up for contracts also they did not want to lose Demko in the expansion draft since Markstrom wanted a full NMC.
Feb 25 at 6:50
#20
Thread Starter
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Quoting: PeterForsberg21
Toffoli they should have kept. The rest VAN couldn't afford to hand out massive contracts when Pettersson , Hughes are up for contracts also they did not want to lose Demko in the expansion draft since Markstrom wanted a full NMC.


This is a real case of "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush". They had a window and they had the team to meet the moment, and they flushed it away because they were so worried about Demko and other contracts that were two seasons from then's problem.
The real crime is Benning's reluctance to get out of bad contracts for fear of upsetting the bottom-line. The dude refuses to retain salary!
Sure, he had to wait a year to buyout Loui, but he could've traded Sutter and Beagle and retained some salary, traded Virtanen and Gaudette, put Ferland on the LTIR (did that), acquire another player to put on LTIR, and kept a tough, winning team together. Winning attracts winners, and if the team was able to keep their SC window open, then those upcoming RFAs would've likely been more than happy to take bridge deals in order to win. I hate using Boston for a good example of anything, but they do that and it works very well for keeping their window open.
 
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