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With Panarin signed

Created by: NickC1988
Team: 2017-18 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 28, 2016
Published: Dec. 28, 2016
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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I don't know how many times I've commented "you forgot bonuses" but it's maddening. This is what the hawks will likely look like without any big trades.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
1$650,000
1$650,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
., Bonuses
1$3,582,500
Trades
1.
CHI
    Expansion
    2.
    CHI
    1. 2018 4th round pick (CAR)
    CAR
      Richard Panik
      DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
      2018
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      Logo of the CHI
      2019
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      Logo of the CHI
      Logo of the CHI
      Logo of the CHI
      Logo of the CHI
      Logo of the CHI
      2020
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      23$73,000,000$68,570,627$3,558,000$1,197,500$4,429,373
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
      $6,000,000$6,000,000
      LW
      UFA - 2
      $10,500,000$10,500,000
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 6
      $2,625,000$2,625,000
      RW
      NMC
      UFA - 6
      $925,000$925,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
      $4,550,000$4,550,000
      C, LW
      NMC
      UFA - 4
      $5,275,000$5,275,000
      RW
      NMC
      UFA - 4
      $706,666$706,666
      C, LW
      UFA - 3
      $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
      RW, C
      UFA - 2
      $778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
      LW, RW
      UFA - 3
      $728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
      LW
      UFA - 3
      $717,500$717,500 (Performance Bonus$107,500$108K)
      RW, LW
      UFA - 1
      $863,333$863,333
      C, RW
      UFA - 1
      ., Bonuses
      $3,582,500$3,582,500
      $625,000$625,000
      RW
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      $5,538,462$5,538,462
      LD
      NMC
      UFA - 6
      $6,875,000$6,875,000
      RD
      NMC
      UFA - 7
      $6,000,000$6,000,000
      G
      M-NTC, NMC
      UFA - 3
      $4,100,000$4,100,000
      LD/RD
      M-NTC, NMC
      UFA - 2
      $825,000$825,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
      $650,000$650,000
      G
      UFA
      $872,500$872,500
      LD
      UFA - 2
      $700,000$700,000
      RD
      RFA - 1
      $650,000$650,000
      LD
      UFA - 1

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      Dec. 28, 2016 at 6:33 p.m.
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      Don't know why hawks fans want Kruger gone I know cap but god there is about a doz guys id get rid of first. plus they can always peddle Hossa to Arizona and get rid of the cap. he's not a $5mil player anymore
      Dec. 28, 2016 at 6:41 p.m.
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      Quoting: fanofthegame
      Don't know why hawks fans want Kruger gone I know cap but god there is about a doz guys id get rid of first. plus they can always peddle Hossa to Arizona and get rid of the cap. he's not a $5mil player anymore

      Theres no way he stays and the team is cap compliant. Hossa has a no move clause he'll say no to Arizona immediately. Nobody wants Hossa's contract. Kruger really doesn't have a major role for the Hawks penalty kill remains last in the league anyway.
      Dec. 28, 2016 at 7:19 p.m.
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      How do bonuses work? Is it from the previous year?
      Dec. 28, 2016 at 7:30 p.m.
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      Quoting: NickC1988
      Quoting: fanofthegame
      Don't know why hawks fans want Kruger gone I know cap but god there is about a doz guys id get rid of first. plus they can always peddle Hossa to Arizona and get rid of the cap. he's not a $5mil player anymore

      Theres no way he stays and the team is cap compliant. Hossa has a no move clause he'll say no to Arizona immediately. Nobody wants Hossa's contract. Kruger really doesn't have a major role for the Hawks penalty kill remains last in the league anyway.


      Ultimately I think you're right here. So that's first, but what's preventing him from pulling a Pavel Datsyuk? Thinking to himself...I don't want to play for $1M a year putting all that abuse to my body...Telling everyone he wants to continue playing, but in his home country. AZ or even Vegas just keeps his cap hit in full. He's only due a total of $4M bucks after this year. Give them something worth taking on $4M.

      I think technically the answer to Datsyuk is the 35+ signed contract, but he didn't technically retire and they didn't buy him out so it's just his cap hit this year in full.
      Dec. 28, 2016 at 8:09 p.m.
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      Quoting: Canadian_Rednek
      How do bonuses work? Is it from the previous year?
      Bonuses apply to the year they are earned, but if they push the total salary cost of the team over the previous cap, then the overage applies to the next year. The Hawks had a huge bonus overage this past year thanks primarily to Panarin and it's highly likely they will have the same thing next season.
      Dec. 28, 2016 at 8:12 p.m.
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      Quoting: exo2769
      Quoting: NickC1988

      Theres no way he stays and the team is cap compliant. Hossa has a no move clause he'll say no to Arizona immediately. Nobody wants Hossa's contract. Kruger really doesn't have a major role for the Hawks penalty kill remains last in the league anyway.


      Ultimately I think you're right here. So that's first, but what's preventing him from pulling a Pavel Datsyuk? Thinking to himself...I don't want to play for $1M a year putting all that abuse to my body...Telling everyone he wants to continue playing, but in his home country. AZ or even Vegas just keeps his cap hit in full. He's only due a total of $4M bucks after this year. Give them something worth taking on $4M.

      I think technically the answer to Datsyuk is the 35+ signed contract, but he didn't technically retire and they didn't buy him out so it's just his cap hit this year in full.
      Hossa cannot pull a Datsyuk - that only worked because Dats' contract was sign post the 2013 CBA. Contracts from before that, like Hossa's, can only be "gotten out of" if the player is LTIR'ed. If they could Datsyuk players on contracts with recapture penalties, Arizona would have done something similar with Pronger the last two year since his salary is under $575m so they didn't have to pay him anything at all.
      Dec. 28, 2016 at 8:16 p.m.
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      Quoting: NickC1988
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      Don't know why hawks fans want Kruger gone I know cap but god there is about a doz guys id get rid of first. plus they can always peddle Hossa to Arizona and get rid of the cap. he's not a $5mil player anymore

      Theres no way he stays and the team is cap compliant. Hossa has a no move clause he'll say no to Arizona immediately. Nobody wants Hossa's contract. Kruger really doesn't have a major role for the Hawks penalty kill remains last in the league anyway.
      Just to be clear, after the 1st 10 or so game where the Hawks PK was sucky (mostly to do with goal tending tbh), the Hawks are between 84-85% success rate and would be good for 6th/7th in the league the rest of the season. Kruger does also have a major role for the Hawks in that his line shuts down others and flips the ice to give more offensive zone starts to the Kane line. Seriously, Kruger's NZ to OZ finish rates are some of the best in the league over his career, especially good considering he faces middle to high end quality of competition. There's a reason he's always selected for Sweden national teams.

      You're right that there is no way he stays, but it's not fair to say Kruger does not play a major role.
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      Dec. 28, 2016 at 8:59 p.m.
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      Quoting: Lly
      Quoting: Canadian_Rednek
      How do bonuses work? Is it from the previous year?
      Bonuses apply to the year they are earned, but if they push the total salary cost of the team over the previous cap, then the overage applies to the next year. The Hawks had a huge bonus overage this past year thanks primarily to Panarin and it's highly likely they will have the same thing next season.


      So this team would have 1.07M in bonuses next season?
      Dec. 28, 2016 at 9:01 p.m.
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      Hawks are most likely going to add at the deadline so I've added Hinostroza, Panarin and Campbell bonuses up and that's the number.
      Dec. 28, 2016 at 9:02 p.m.
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      Quoting: Canadian_Rednek
      Quoting: Lly
      Bonuses apply to the year they are earned, but if they push the total salary cost of the team over the previous cap, then the overage applies to the next year. The Hawks had a huge bonus overage this past year thanks primarily to Panarin and it's highly likely they will have the same thing next season.


      So this team would have 1.07M in bonuses next season?


      It depends on how many contracts have performance bonuses.
      Dec. 28, 2016 at 9:05 p.m.
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      Edited Dec. 28, 2016 at 9:21 p.m.
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      Quoting: exo2769


      Ultimately I think you're right here. So that's first, but what's preventing him from pulling a Pavel Datsyuk? Thinking to himself...I don't want to play for $1M a year putting all that abuse to my body...Telling everyone he wants to continue playing, but in his home country. AZ or even Vegas just keeps his cap hit in full. He's only due a total of $4M bucks after this year. Give them something worth taking on $4M.

      I think technically the answer to Datsyuk is the 35+ signed contract, but he didn't technically retire and they didn't buy him out so it's just his cap hit this year in full.
      Hossa cannot pull a Datsyuk - that only worked because Dats' contract was sign post the 2013 CBA. Contracts from before that, like Hossa's, can only be "gotten out of" if the player is LTIR'ed. If they could Datsyuk players on contracts with recapture penalties, Arizona would have done something similar with Pronger the last two year since his salary is under $575m so they didn't have to pay him anything at all.


      ***EDIT*** OK I think you're right here.
      Dec. 28, 2016 at 9:14 p.m.
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      Edited Dec. 28, 2016 at 9:19 p.m.
      Quoting: NickC1988
      Kruger really doesn't have a major role for the Hawks penalty kill remains last in the league anyway.

      Jesus! You didn't really just say that?

      Thank you Lly, for clearing up the Kruger scenario for everyone that doesn't understand.

      Quoting: Canadian_Rednek
      So this team would have 1.07M in bonuses next season?

      To be very clear here, the $1.07M that you see in the bonuses is the POTENTIAL bonuses that players can receive over the course of the 2017-18 season. These bonuses mean nothing to the cap hit for said season until the season is over.
      For the Blackhawks in the 2015-16 season they had like $3M in potential bonuses. Since they ended the season basically against the salary cap, those $3M in bonuses are then counted as overage penalties against the cap for the 2016-17 season. Thus the Blackhawks are running with a salary cap of around $68.4M this year instead of the $71.4M for the league.
      However, once again, the Blackhawks have potential bonuses of like $4.5M this season 2016-17 and since much of it will be hit due to Campbell and Panarin they will have an overage penalty for next season 2017-18. If the Hawks ended the season say $1.5M below the cap (they won't) then they would be charged $4.5 - $1.5 = $3M next season against their cap.

      Hope this clears it up for some people.
      Jan. 2, 2017 at 6:47 p.m.
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      the hawks will add at the deadline but it will be mostly rentals like last year.
       
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