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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13 at 6:32 p.m.
Thread: Real Asset Management
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>#1) No need to start insulting people because you don't agree with someone. I know that's part of the weak societal culture we live in nowadays but it's incredibly immature and lacks any intellectual integrity.
#2) You will 1000% have to retain on McCabe, he's not worth his cap hit; he played like absolutely crap last season.
#3) You weaponize the cap on other teams. For example, pickup Zucker from Pitsburgh for a 2nd, retain half and trade him at the deadline for 1st or 2nd. You are getting assets twice instead of negotiating with a player who has arbitration rights and risking arbitration; they are not assets unless they have value today which they clearly don't with arbitration rights and the lack of any teams wanting their RFAs with arbitration rights. Alternatively, there are plenty of cap dumps the hawks can pick up from other teams and make the pay to move them, retain and flip them at the TDL or in another year. A lot less risky.</div></div>

Really not sure where the insult was here?
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12 at 1:51 p.m.
Thread: Real Asset Management
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>You only have 3 retention spots, why would you waste those on players that aren't under contract and one of which (Kubalik) had a real down year and has a $4m qualify offer. Especially in the case of Kubalik is makes zero sense. Strome would have likely gotten $4.5M, some analysts say $5.5M. There's simply not that much value in using a retention spot versus using it on Kane as example who at $5.25M retained will get a nice haul back. McCabe and Murphy are two others that probably need to be moved eventually.</div></div>

Kane, Toews and one of these two. You would not need to retain on Murphy or McCabe at the deadline. You're arguing you'd rather have zero value for assets vs any value. I guess there are more people than I thought who cant see basics of how to grow team value
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12 at 1:40 p.m.
Thread: Real Asset Management
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>With both, because Kubalik or Strome and their agent can take the Hawks to arbitration which as widely reported, Strome would likely award him $4m to $5m; that's also why the Hawks have had trouble trading him...too big of a risk for any team. With Kubalik, it's harder to say what arbitration would have given, but his QO is $4m and that is rich coming off of a subpar performance last season for him. As UFAs, they lose arbitration rights.</div></div>

So what they go to arbitration? Trading them even after arbitration with 1/2 retained proves that whatever team they go to is getting a player at half their AAV market value. If you're rebuilding, you do not let players with value walk for nothing.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HiddenValley</b></div><div>Real asset management is trading them, along with De Haan, at the deadline. You can only retain three salaries a year, this would limit them to only being able to retain on Kane and likely unable to trade Toews at all. </div></div>

This is a good point, the could only do it with one of them. Still should have been done. They really should have traded the players rights for ANYTHING prior to the QO deadline.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 17, 2021 at 1:43 p.m.
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