Obviously you're the one needing to be educated here, Yzerman got a 2020 2nd round pick+2021 2nd round pick plus Sam Gagner for Andreas Athanasiou. 2 2nd rounders and a cap dump in Sam Gagner.

For you. Which part of the quote from the article is wrong? Lol

Technically it was, you would not have gotten the other 2nd had you not taken Gagner, would have been a 4th. It was bumped up to take the dump.

Also, Big difference between a struggling AA in his prime one season removed from 30 goal season and a struggling Ryan who has been declining for a couple of years.

Maybe you two geniuses can get together and figure it out lol...the other two members of this chat seem like they're on the same page.

Good luck with getting that 2nd for Bobby without retaining.

Also one was an RFA....and 24

Only stupid people say "figure it out." Good Lord. Seek help.

Hence why AA got an Extra 2nd round pick. I said Ryan will get one 2nd round pick.

lol oh man

I doubt he does. But someone always does something stupid at the deadline.

I'm pretty sure Yzerman would gladly give Bobby Ryan away for a 2nd round pick @ $500,000 that's not a problem.

Are you still in denial about the value Yzerman received for AA? Oh Man. Lol

Of course...whats your point

Paul Gaustad a 4C once got a 1st Rd pick before the trade deadline.

My point being that Yzerman would gladly retain on Bobby Ryan if he can get a 2nd rounder for him. This would be true with possibly Glendening as well. Retain and take a cap dump back.

And Leafs gave Habs two 2nds for a washed up Plekanec. Barclay Goodrow got a 1st. Teams do dumb things. But those guys still added value for what they do/did. What does Ryan bring? His only asset is offense and there isn’t any there.

Got it, thanks.

I think the point I am clearly trying to make is Yzerman would be really lucky to get a 2nd for him....he would have to retain to have a chance to get there.

I love the "whataboutism" argument....it's my favorite one.

If you watch the games you'll see Bobby Ryan creates offense each game he plays. Detroit lacks players who can finish. Toronto has plenty of guys who can do this. Or Pittsburgh, isles, caps... any contender. Ryan is a cheap add. 1 mil AAV. He can play on any line and PP.

Ryan has missed some time with covid and injuries. Stats don't tell the whole story here. Ryan will be a good addition to any playoff team.

Next up, but he plays for a bad team that’s why he does not score much. 🙄

Oops, too late, already did it. Lol. Perfect.

Facts don't exist in your fantasy land world. Lol

Oh i agree Bobby Ryan at best might return a 3rd round pick at the rate he's playing now. But if Yzerman wants a 2nd for him per reports i wont put it past him to what ever it takes to make that happen.

Well at least you 2 can hump each other in your ignorance. 🤣

And that’s his true value....he’s cheap. Much easier for teams to bring in.

Rentals don't get a 2nd unless they're higher caliber, pedigree and producing. Ryan could get a 2nd but only if he get's hot; 2 goals in his last 26 games isn't enough. Maybe a conditional 3rd that becomes a 2nd if either Ryan's production is high or the team goes deep with him playing the majority of the playoff games.

Here's some comparable rental trades:
https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/gustav-nyquist (2019) 2nd, 3rd
https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/thomas-vanek (2017) 3rd
https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/ilya-kovalchuk (2020) 3rd
https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/vladislav-namestnikov (2020) 4th
https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/wayne-simmonds (2020) 5th
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/tyler-ennis (2020) 5th

If deal happens Friday it works. Each day earlier would require 1% or 2% more retention on Ekholm. Armchair gm isn't accurate for mid-season trades.

Taxi squad I just placed anyone that I considered a viable callup.