Not intriguing whatsoever. We would only trade Mantha to get younger. Zucker is 29, POJ is a dime a dozen, and the 2nd isn't very exciting either.

I haven't seen much of Joseph but based on his stats alone I don't think "dime a dozen" gives him enough credit. That being said, I agree for the most part. It's not bad but the wings won't have any interest in taking Zucker back. Pettersson instead of Zucker and I think we're getting somewhere.

It would work if you changed the 2nd to a first and took the retention out from mantha. We aren't going to retain on a 4 years deal

For Pettersson to be the center piece in a trade like this he has to start scoring again. Now if he his contract expired after 2021-22 season I could see teams taking a chance. His contract has 4 more years left with a cap hit just over $4M that's a big risk to take.

I don't see Pettersson as the centerpiece, to be honest. I see Joseph as the centerpiece. But I agree with the risk involved and that the wings still probably don't do that trade because of the cap hit and contract length. Including Pettersson over Zucker does get the wings to not hang up the phone though, I think. Make it a 2022 or 2023 first instead of a second and I think the wings accept. So I think the idea is fine here, but a Pettersson, Joseph, 2022/23 1st package would get it done. Not sure that the penguins would be willing to give that up though.