Switch one of the seconds to a defensive prospect

I don't see Palmieri getting moved for only prospects. One of those picks would have to be a prospect.

Not with that offer.
I'd resign him first

Bellows is the only prospect i could see included the trade. It’s a buyers market and bellows+2nd should be more than enough for palmieri considering that’s what it would take to acquire hall. Palmieri doesn’t have more value than hall

Devils don't want Bellows. We need defensive prospects and Bellows could be taken in the expansion draft

I bet fitz values a 2nd over wilde and I don’t think Lou would trade bolduc or salo straight up for palmieri.

Well they didnt claim Ennis or Gusev. Is Lou working a trade right now or does he just not care that Leo & Ross are in the top 9

kind of bizarre that they didn't put a claim in for Ennis,. Just waive johnston. It's that simple.

I'm not even being sarcastic, ross wouldn't crack the top 9 on an ECHL team. Last night the 3rd line was the only line that generated nothing.

Johnston: 14.15 xgf%
Wahlstrom: 13.37 xgf%
pageau : 7.18 xgf%

It is infuriating to watch johnston hold back the 3rd line. He can't forecheck effective, can't execute a simple tape to tape pass, his timing entering the zone is awful which leads to offsides. Its insane

He certainly does

No he has about the same. Hall is still an elite play driver and has the same ppg as palmieri playing on a much worse Buffalo team.

Palmieri is much better defensively

You could absolutely argue Palmieri is more valuable than Hall. He's essentially half of what Hall costs, in terms of real money, in a world where teams dont want to take on money because of the current climate of the world. Hes also a better goal scorer and you can argue hes a better all around player defensively/physically, which fits how the Isles play way more than Hall does. Palmieri is likely the best rental forward on the market, and is a much better fit for the isles than Hall. Two 2nd round picks doesnt get it done, Devils want a pro ready prospect.

Palmieri is a better goal scorer, that it's. Hall has actually been good defensively this season and Palmieri has been below average in his own end. Hall is the better play driver and hes the better forechecker, Palmieri looks like he's on the Andrew Ladd trajectory and is already on the decline. The narrative that Palmieri fits the way the isles play more than hall is not true.

no he is not. Palmieri's xGA/60 (preventing quality shots against) is worse than hall

Any other year I agree
This year no
Hall sucks, and I like Hall
At least he had developed talent around him
Palms is working with less for sure

It is very true, Islanders beat writers have even wrote about it. I'd much rather trade for him over Hall 100% and so do most other Islanders fans. Also as i said, hes less money which is arguably the biggest factor for most teams.

Dude cmon
We watched hall and Palms here

the numbers don't lie and ive watched both of them a lot this season

the isles beat writers are delusional. Most of the things they say never come to fruition. When most fans talk about fit, they assume hall isn't good defensively and Palmieri is. If you actually look at the numbers hall is better defensively than Palmieri- pretty much puts that narrative to bed.

Sure money is a factor but lee is on LTIR and the isles can afford to take on hall with little retention

Lol okay. So most people in the hockey world, not just isles beat writers, agree that Palmieri is a better fit for this team in Trotz' system over Hall, so i guess they're all delusional then? Got it, makes sense. I think you're the delusional one here. Palms is absolutely a better fit for this team, its not even a question. I'd give up more for Palmieri than Hall any day of the week this season.

I'm not talking about cap space, im talking about real money. Teams dont want to take on more money and are limiting how much they take on as much as they can. Palmieri is essentially half the money that Hall is, thats a big factor right now.

No this year hall is better than Palmieri. Its not close. He leads Palmieri in almost every advanced stat.

Palmieri most common linemates at 5v5 this season
Hughes, zacha, severson, and Kulikov

I would say those are some pretty good players!

Hall played for the worst coach and rarely had consistent linemates.

The hockey world? Can you elaborate?

The numbers don't matter I guess - What makes Palmieri a better fit? This season hall leads him in almost every offensive and defensive category.

Go listen to a podcast, or a radio segement, or read anything about the upcoming deadline? Its pretty widely agreeable among most people that Palmieri is a better fit for the team fit and culture wise. Idk what to tell ya man. Also not even to mention Lou's familiarity with him, he loves his ex players. I would actually be annoyed if Hall was our deadline acquisition, hes been riding the coattails of one good year in NJ and has been declining every year since. That year is clearly the outlier

ok and what is the reason. If most people are saying Palmieri is a better fit because hes better defensively , they'd be wrong because hall is better defensively than Palmieri all while playing for a worse team/coach.

If your reason for Palmieri going to the isles over hall is because of familiarity with lou, sure I can see that. Although its already out there that lou has inquired on hall. I'm just putting down the narrative that Palmieri is the better fit, because that's just not true. You still haven't made a legitimate argument why Palmieri is the better fit.