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Isles777

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Forum: Armchair-GM13 hours ago
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 12:11 am
Thread: Ilya Sorokin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yesyesyes2020</b></div><div>The Tortorella era is the most successful in blue jackets history and he’s one of the few coaches in this league to have won a cup. Also Trotz coached Nashville from the time they were born so he had no choice but to develop players. If these guys can’t handle getting pushed by Trotz that means they are soft and they won’t last in the league. Dobson ain’t gonna leave because his coach benched him when he was 20. The grinders are important for making Trotz system work they wear down opponents. He doesn’t like them better than Wally and Dobson. He talks about how important they are all the time. Those guys have potential to be stars in this league for a long time so he has higher expectations for them. He’s a good coach and we are lucky to have him the way he’s turned this team around in a year after losing their star player, turning around their defense form worst to first with the same personnel when literally everyone believed they were going to be a lottery team is unprecedented. This team won a single playoff series in 25 years before he came here. 2016 felt like they won the cup when they beat the panthers (game 6 of that series is the greatest hockey game I’ve been to) but now winning playoff series is the new normal.</div></div>

I don’t care that toetorella won a cup. That was almost 20 years ago and times have changed. He ran gaborik out of town, dubious. Laine is next. He doesn’t know how to handle young players and neither does trotz. There’s a difference between being pushed and singled out. Trotz constantly singles out young players and scratches them for scrubs.

This one of the worst games I’ve ever seen the isles play. They looked like a beer league team. That coburn-Greene pairing might be the worst pairing the isles have ever assembled. Two old, slow pylons who can’t move the puck. Trotz thinks coburn is a better option than young 6’4 smooth skating puck mover. It’s a huge problem.

you can appreciate trotz being an upgrade from previous coaches but at the same time his lineup decisions hold the team back. He has cost the isles plenty of games this season because he feels that barzal needs to be on a leash with some 4th line grinder and he gives too much ice time to players who don’t deserve it.

Think about it: we just iced a lineup with Andy Greene, Leo komarov, Matt Martin, travis zajac , and Brayden coburn , and Scott mayfield. A 1/3 of our lineup and all 6 of them have below average skill and skating. You don’t think that’s a problem?
Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 10:04 pm
Thread: Ilya Sorokin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yesyesyes2020</b></div><div>Young guys are still developing so he holds them to a higher standard. He’s pushing them to make them better players. Guys like mayfield are what they are but Dobson Wally and even barzal haven’t reached their potential so Trotz pushes them harder to do so. Barzal is the top guy but he’ll still bench him for long stretches of time when he screws up. Also you have to realize that different players respond to different things. Some players respond to a good kick in the a** and some need to be coddled. The coach knows their personalities better than you and I and he responds accordingly. That’s why he treats players different. Because the players are different.</div></div>

Trotz isn’t exactly known for developing players. I disagree, he’s doing it because naturally he has a soft spot for old grinders. This is worst case scenario, but don’t be surprised if Trotz runs wahlstrom, Dobson, and barzal out of here. He’s not much different from tortorella.

I don’t think young players should play just because - like I don’t think bellows and Aho should be in the lineup right now. But what trotz is doing with wahlstrom and Dobson is weird.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 9:40 pm
Thread: Ilya Sorokin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheWhiteWhale</b></div><div>I’d call ya pessimistic but I think that exact same thing</div></div>
Lmao
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trotz says he needs to see more from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Isles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">#Isles</a> top guys. But also from the younger guys, took Noah Dobson out because of his performance last couple games, says he hasn't been getting enough from Oliver Wahlstrom lately. Says it's a grind for the younger players.</p>— Andrew Gross (@AGrossNewsday) <a href="https://twitter.com/AGrossNewsday/status/1383958391593127943?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">April 19, 2021</a></blockquote>