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See what the kid can do, you can call him up for 7 games. Give him 2-3 at the end of the season.
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Apr. 22, 2021 at 11:10 p.m.
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Is Ceci seriously ahead of Marino in the depth chart?
Apr. 22, 2021 at 11:45 p.m.
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Is Ceci seriously ahead of Marino in the depth chart?


unfortunatly yes rn

its

Doumelin-Letang
Matheson-Ceci
Petterson-Marino

Ceci is one of those guys benefiting from only playing select teams I call it "Either or Effect" where players either over or underachieve in compacted divisions.
Apr. 23, 2021 at 2:29 a.m.
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Is Ceci seriously ahead of Marino in the depth chart?


2nd pairs are sheltered.
They hide that pair out the DZone as much as possible.
Apr. 23, 2021 at 1:06 p.m.
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Zero chance Poulin plays right now. He has done nothing to indicate he is an NHL player.

Call him up and play him in the AHL? Yeah sure
Apr. 23, 2021 at 9:30 p.m.
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Zero chance Poulin plays right now. He has done nothing to indicate he is an NHL player.

Call him up and play him in the AHL? Yeah sure


dude who cares, They have a playoff spot locked up, and they can play him 7 games without messing up his waivers etc...
There is no harm seeing what he can do. Period. Only you would sit here and argue that.
Apr. 24, 2021 at 4:23 p.m.
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dude who cares, They have a playoff spot locked up, and they can play him 7 games without messing up his waivers etc...
There is no harm seeing what he can do. Period. Only you would sit here and argue that.


What are you talking about? They are 100% not doing it. He isnt an NHL player right now and they are in a dogfight jockeying for playoff position with huge games coming up. They are going to be playing with lines as they get healthy. Why would you bring a kid in and see what he has for 7 games? Makes zero sense? They have HUGE games coming up. It isn`t the time to see what a prospect has its time to get the team in playoff mode and prepare for the playoffs and hopefully get home ice advantage for those first two rounds.

Play him in the AHL sure but there is absolutely no way they play him in the NHL right now...
Apr. 24, 2021 at 10:55 p.m.
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What are you talking about? They are 100% not doing it. He isnt an NHL player right now and they are in a dogfight jockeying for playoff position with huge games coming up. They are going to be playing with lines as they get healthy. Why would you bring a kid in and see what he has for 7 games? Makes zero sense? They have HUGE games coming up. It isn`t the time to see what a prospect has its time to get the team in playoff mode and prepare for the playoffs and hopefully get home ice advantage for those first two rounds.

Play him in the AHL sure but there is absolutely no way they play him in the NHL right now...


this team does not have "huge" games coming up. They are in. Period. They need 5 points in either wins or NYR/PHL loses.
They are a lock to make the playoffs.
"Not NHL ready" wtf do you know about being NHL ready. You don't know what the kid can do, because he's never been given the chance. They get 7 games without costing the team anything to see where this kid is. Using up 2-3 of them to see if he can play at the level when they could use him for a playoff run would be huge. This team is one difference maker away from being a legit contender. But you'd rather sit on seeing if you have one when it costs you nothing. This is why you don't win. You take no risk, you get no reward.
Apr. 25, 2021 at 5:27 p.m.
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this team does not have "huge" games coming up. They are in. Period. They need 5 points in either wins or NYR/PHL loses.
They are a lock to make the playoffs.
"Not NHL ready" wtf do you know about being NHL ready. You don't know what the kid can do, because he's never been given the chance. They get 7 games without costing the team anything to see where this kid is. Using up 2-3 of them to see if he can play at the level when they could use him for a playoff run would be huge. This team is one difference maker away from being a legit contender. But you'd rather sit on seeing if you have one when it costs you nothing. This is why you don't win. You take no risk, you get no reward.


Dude you have no idea what you`re talking about. These are huge games. Today against Boston, HUGE game. They are in the playoffs but right now teams are fine tuning everything and trying to get to the top of their game. There is literally ZERO chance that a playoff team would just call up a prospect for the final few games. Especially one that is not NHL ready. He just isnt. Thats fine, he`s young. Bring him into the AHL to finish the year? Yeah sure, plenty of other teams are doing that. But there is literally absolutely zero chance he would be brought to the NHL right now. Anyone that understands hockey would realize the many reasons why that would not happen right now.
Apr. 26, 2021 at 7:28 a.m.
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Dude you have no idea what you`re talking about. These are huge games. Today against Boston, HUGE game. They are in the playoffs but right now teams are fine tuning everything and trying to get to the top of their game. There is literally ZERO chance that a playoff team would just call up a prospect for the final few games. Especially one that is not NHL ready. He just isnt. Thats fine, he`s young. Bring him into the AHL to finish the year? Yeah sure, plenty of other teams are doing that. But there is literally absolutely zero chance he would be brought to the NHL right now. Anyone that understands hockey would realize the many reasons why that would not happen right now.


The only one here who has no clue what they are talking about is you. Plenty of teams call up prospects to play at the end of a season once they know they are in.
There is no fine tuning. That is a joke of a statement.
You also have no idea what you have in that player. None.
Anyone who understands hockey would realize you got 7 games, use them.
You're just posting nonsense at this point.
Seeing if the kid can step in and play in what might be one of their last real chances at a cup with 0 risk is the right thing to do.
You act like sitting ERod for 2-3 games is some huge issue. FFS get over yourself.
Apr. 26, 2021 at 5:49 p.m.
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The only one here who has no clue what they are talking about is you. Plenty of teams call up prospects to play at the end of a season once they know they are in.
There is no fine tuning. That is a joke of a statement.
You also have no idea what you have in that player. None.
Anyone who understands hockey would realize you got 7 games, use them.
You're just posting nonsense at this point.
Seeing if the kid can step in and play in what might be one of their last real chances at a cup with 0 risk is the right thing to do.
You act like sitting ERod for 2-3 games is some huge issue. FFS get over yourself.


Im telling you with 100% certainty you`re just way off the mark here. For two reasons.

1. He isn`t an NHL player. He has done nothing to indicate he is an NHL player.

2. Even if he was, they still would not do it. If it was Buffalo or a bottom team? Mayyyyybe but again it would probably be the AHL to start as did other prospects ie. Caufield, Byfield, Zegras etc...(who are lightyears ahead of Poulin). But a contending team, in a dog fight, with already insane depth at the forward positions, is NOT going to bring in a guy and disrupt what they have in the most critical time of the year. It just 100% will not happen. If he was a Caufield or Zegras or something then maybe, but thats not the player you are talking about. He isn`t going to be a difference maker right now and its just foolish to think the team would even consider putting him in the NHL lineup right now. If Poulin was a top level prospect then maybe. He isn`t which is why the idea is a bad one. The fact he isn`t even playing in the AHL right now should be enough to tell you that.

He has every chance to come in next year at training camp and earn his spot. He hasn`t done that and putting him in the lineup ahead of guys who have fought to be there and have played well there is ridiculous train of thought.
Apr. 27, 2021 at 3:06 a.m.
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Im telling you with 100% certainty you`re just way off the mark here. For two reasons.

1. He isn`t an NHL player. He has done nothing to indicate he is an NHL player.

2. Even if he was, they still would not do it. If it was Buffalo or a bottom team? Mayyyyybe but again it would probably be the AHL to start as did other prospects ie. Caufield, Byfield, Zegras etc...(who are lightyears ahead of Poulin). But a contending team, in a dog fight, with already insane depth at the forward positions, is NOT going to bring in a guy and disrupt what they have in the most critical time of the year. It just 100% will not happen. If he was a Caufield or Zegras or something then maybe, but thats not the player you are talking about. He isn`t going to be a difference maker right now and its just foolish to think the team would even consider putting him in the NHL lineup right now. If Poulin was a top level prospect then maybe. He isn`t which is why the idea is a bad one. The fact he isn`t even playing in the AHL right now should be enough to tell you that.

He has every chance to come in next year at training camp and earn his spot. He hasn`t done that and putting him in the lineup ahead of guys who have fought to be there and have played well there is ridiculous train of thought.


you have no idea what you are talking about.
You have no idea what you have in that player. "isn't an NHL player" that is such an arbitrary statement when looking at a prospect who clearly will be at the NHL level.
You are trying to compare a guy who's 6'2 215lbs to Caufield who might be 5'6 and 130lbs soaking wet. Or Byfield, who is slow as hell and struggles to move.
Not only do you not have a single clue what the hell you are talking about but you are over here totally incapable of understanding what the F I'm saying.
There is 0 harm in playing him for 2-3 games to see what you have in him. None. They are not in a "dog fight" LOL where the hell do you get this nonsense from. Their playoff spot is a lock. Period. That is over. It's not even in question. They are 3 points in wins or loses from it being a mathematical fact. They have 7 games left. So CLEARLY there is room for him to play him.
Furthermore, playing a kid for 7-8 minutes a night, isn't going to "kill the team." Like how ridiculous is that idea. Yeah, they are really going to lose all those games just because of him....... what a Fing rube thing to think.
You are just incapable of wrapping your head around these things. You're the person who thought Marino would never get a game his first year because he's out the NCAA. Or that OConnor wouldn't either. Even though he did, and you should expect to see more of him sooner than you think. The reality is you DON"T KNOW what he can do at this level, because you've never given him a chance. Because you're too bone headed to realize you can without it costing you anything. But go ahead there and talk about "he could never"...... you sound like a bitter stooge mad you can't play at that level trying to play expert on what someone else can or can't do.
You won't know anything until he steps on the ice and plays hockey. Period. Stop pretending you do.
If you are losing games due to 1 player playing 7-8 minutes a night you are in trouble to begin with. FFS what part of that don't you get.
In the mean time, you might find out he's a better player than what you DO have. We aren't talking insurmountable hurdles here, ffs have you see who they are currently icing. I'm pretty damn sure I can find a lot of "not NHL players" out of the CHL who at this point can out play Jankowski. You don't have a team of McDavids He could make an actual impact. But you're hell bent on keeping people down, because "you know better", that you'll never know if he can or can't. Meanwhile, the team is closing out a window without throwing out everything they got to see what gives them the best chance of winning. But you're hell bent on "knowing better". This team doesn't have anything to save for. They are all in now, period. So if they can try their best prospect for NOTHING, they should and actually be ALL IN. Maybe try wrapping your small mind around that.
Or just sit in your basement pretending to be a hockey expert to yourself. Thinking no one can out play Jankowski or ERod like a rube.
Apr. 27, 2021 at 1:01 p.m.
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you have no idea what you are talking about.
You have no idea what you have in that player. "isn't an NHL player" that is such an arbitrary statement when looking at a prospect who clearly will be at the NHL level.
You are trying to compare a guy who's 6'2 215lbs to Caufield who might be 5'6 and 130lbs soaking wet. Or Byfield, who is slow as hell and struggles to move.
Not only do you not have a single clue what the hell you are talking about but you are over here totally incapable of understanding what the F I'm saying.
There is 0 harm in playing him for 2-3 games to see what you have in him. None. They are not in a "dog fight" LOL where the hell do you get this nonsense from. Their playoff spot is a lock. Period. That is over. It's not even in question. They are 3 points in wins or loses from it being a mathematical fact. They have 7 games left. So CLEARLY there is room for him to play him.
Furthermore, playing a kid for 7-8 minutes a night, isn't going to "kill the team." Like how ridiculous is that idea. Yeah, they are really going to lose all those games just because of him....... what a Fing rube thing to think.
You are just incapable of wrapping your head around these things. You're the person who thought Marino would never get a game his first year because he's out the NCAA. Or that OConnor wouldn't either. Even though he did, and you should expect to see more of him sooner than you think. The reality is you DON"T KNOW what he can do at this level, because you've never given him a chance. Because you're too bone headed to realize you can without it costing you anything. But go ahead there and talk about "he could never"...... you sound like a bitter stooge mad you can't play at that level trying to play expert on what someone else can or can't do.
You won't know anything until he steps on the ice and plays hockey. Period. Stop pretending you do.
If you are losing games due to 1 player playing 7-8 minutes a night you are in trouble to begin with. FFS what part of that don't you get.
In the mean time, you might find out he's a better player than what you DO have. We aren't talking insurmountable hurdles here, ffs have you see who they are currently icing. I'm pretty damn sure I can find a lot of "not NHL players" out of the CHL who at this point can out play Jankowski. You don't have a team of McDavids He could make an actual impact. But you're hell bent on keeping people down, because "you know better", that you'll never know if he can or can't. Meanwhile, the team is closing out a window without throwing out everything they got to see what gives them the best chance of winning. But you're hell bent on "knowing better". This team doesn't have anything to save for. They are all in now, period. So if they can try their best prospect for NOTHING, they should and actually be ALL IN. Maybe try wrapping your small mind around that.
Or just sit in your basement pretending to be a hockey expert to yourself. Thinking no one can out play Jankowski or ERod like a rube.


Sam Poulin is not an NHL player right now. You can`t compare Byfield and Caufield to Poulin. Those two players are on another level. Sam Poulin is just not an NHL player...its alright man...maybe one day he will be. But to reiterate, there is 0% chance he gets put into the lineup right now. You can pretend in whatever world you live in that it is a good idea and it could happen but the truth is it wouldnt. Not on this team. Buffalo? Maybe. They aren`t playing for anything. Which is another absurd idea by you. They ARE in a dog fight. They will make the playoffs yes but standings position is pretty damn important for home ice. Plus, if you had any clue how hockey teams work then you would know at this time of year you want to fine tune your game, get chemistry in good places between lines and be playing at the best level you can heading into the playoffs. Pretty basic understanding anyone who has played would know. Bringing in a prospect who isn`t ready would disrupt all of that and makes no sense. It will not happen.

Never said that about Marino or O Connor either. All you do is make up things that I never say and claim I don`t know anything but its pretty clear thats you...Over and over again with just god awful takes and ideas that would never even be contemplated...Which is fine...Very few people on here do have much of a clue. But the arrogance and condescending manner in which you talk is just embarrassing so I always feel the need to call you out on it. You really don`t know jack shiet so maybe unpuff your chest a little bud.
Apr. 27, 2021 at 2:22 p.m.
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Sam Poulin is not an NHL player right now. You can`t compare Byfield and Caufield to Poulin. Those two players are on another level. Sam Poulin is just not an NHL player...its alright man...maybe one day he will be. But to reiterate, there is 0% chance he gets put into the lineup right now. You can pretend in whatever world you live in that it is a good idea and it could happen but the truth is it wouldnt. Not on this team. Buffalo? Maybe. They aren`t playing for anything. Which is another absurd idea by you. They ARE in a dog fight. They will make the playoffs yes but standings position is pretty damn important for home ice. Plus, if you had any clue how hockey teams work then you would know at this time of year you want to fine tune your game, get chemistry in good places between lines and be playing at the best level you can heading into the playoffs. Pretty basic understanding anyone who has played would know. Bringing in a prospect who isn`t ready would disrupt all of that and makes no sense. It will not happen.

Never said that about Marino or O Connor either. All you do is make up things that I never say and claim I don`t know anything but its pretty clear thats you...Over and over again with just god awful takes and ideas that would never even be contemplated...Which is fine...Very few people on here do have much of a clue. But the arrogance and condescending manner in which you talk is just embarrassing so I always feel the need to call you out on it. You really don`t know jack shiet so maybe unpuff your chest a little bud.


two paragraphs of just drivel your inability to get the point so you just lashing out at others.
You clearly don't get. It's well beyond you.
Obviously playing Poulin over Jankowski will have catastrophic consequence for the penguins.
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FFS get over yourself.
Apr. 27, 2021 at 2:36 p.m.
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two paragraphs of just drivel your inability to get the point so you just lashing out at others.
You clearly don't get. It's well beyond you.
Obviously playing Poulin over Jankowski will have catastrophic consequence for the penguins.
tears of joy
FFS get over yourself.


Catastrophic? No. But it just doesn`t make sense and they aren`t going to do it. Period. Like, 100% Sam Poulin will not be playing in the NHL now or in the playoffs. No doubt about it. Saying otherwise and trying to argue that it would be the correct move is simply foolish. You just can NOT accept you are wrong, ever. You just dont get how hockey truly works. Did you know these are real players? Real coaches and managers looking over them? You just don`t understand the game of hockey or how the NHL works.
Apr. 27, 2021 at 7:19 p.m.
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Catastrophic? No. But it just doesn`t make sense and they aren`t going to do it. Period. Like, 100% Sam Poulin will not be playing in the NHL now or in the playoffs. No doubt about it. Saying otherwise and trying to argue that it would be the correct move is simply foolish. You just can NOT accept you are wrong, ever. You just dont get how hockey truly works. Did you know these are real players? Real coaches and managers looking over them? You just don`t understand the game of hockey or how the NHL works.


holy ****, you are an idiot.
NO one said they would. numb nuts.
The whole point is they SHOULD.
It's ignorant thinking like yours that holds them back from actually doing anything to help themselves.
Apr. 27, 2021 at 9:26 p.m.
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holy ****, you are an idiot.
NO one said they would. numb nuts.
The whole point is they SHOULD.
It's ignorant thinking like yours that holds them back from actually doing anything to help themselves.


Man...you just can not admit when you`re wrong? Like you are literally incapable of doing it. Its actually mind-blowing.

Its a bad take. They aren`t going to bring him up. He is literally in the QMJHL playoffs, where he should be. He is not an NHL player right now and even if YOU consider him to be one then it still would not be a good idea due to the time of year and the Penguins position in the standings.

ignorant thinking? No...its just how managing a hockey team worked forever and how it will continue to work...The only ignorant thinking is that bringing an non-NHL ready prospect into a team in the middle of the stretch drive before playoffs while the team is fighting for playoff position and is trying to develop line chemistry is somehow a good idea. Its not. There is no benefit to it and I haven`t seen you bring up a benefit for it other than "Erod sucks" which is another brutal take.
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Man...you just can not admit when you`re wrong? Like you are literally incapable of doing it. Its actually mind-blowing.

Its a bad take. They aren`t going to bring him up. He is literally in the QMJHL playoffs, where he should be. He is not an NHL player right now and even if YOU consider him to be one then it still would not be a good idea due to the time of year and the Penguins position in the standings.

ignorant thinking? No...its just how managing a hockey team worked forever and how it will continue to work...The only ignorant thinking is that bringing an non-NHL ready prospect into a team in the middle of the stretch drive before playoffs while the team is fighting for playoff position and is trying to develop line chemistry is somehow a good idea. Its not. There is no benefit to it and I haven`t seen you bring up a benefit for it other than "Erod sucks" which is another brutal take.


you are a bad take. Like every opinion.
How's that ERod working out for you against BOS. What, you couldn't notice him on the ice other than his 5'10 self trying to take a retaliation penalty as he got shoved around?
Yeah clearly he should start over a guy like Zoho against BOS. That made perfect sense. You and Sully Hockey geniuses.

Your can't even wrap your head around playing a guy over F Jankowski and Sceviour because "chemistry"
FFS they'll be riding pine on the bench when the team is healthy you nitwit. What "chemistry" will you be disrupting.

Wow what chemistry building there will be then. He Jankowski, pass me the ketchup for my fries? #teamwork!

Your takes are so bad. They are worse than bad. And the fact that you sit here and try to sound like a hockey expert is pathetic.
Apr. 28, 2021 at 3:09 a.m.
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you are a bad take. Like every opinion.
How's that ERod working out for you against BOS. What, you couldn't notice him on the ice other than his 5'10 self trying to take a retaliation penalty as he got shoved around?
Yeah clearly he should start over a guy like Zoho against BOS. That made perfect sense. You and Sully Hockey geniuses.

Your can't even wrap your head around playing a guy over F Jankowski and Sceviour because "chemistry"
FFS they'll be riding pine on the bench when the team is healthy you nitwit. What "chemistry" will you be disrupting.

Wow what chemistry building there will be then. He Jankowski, pass me the ketchup for my fries? #teamwork!

Your takes are so bad. They are worse than bad. And the fact that you sit here and try to sound like a hockey expert is pathetic.


Nah bud.

The only bad take here has been saying Poulin should be playing in the NHL right now. It is wrong for a number of reasons that I`ve gone over multiple times now but you refuse to acknowledge it and just attack me for things I never say. Its sad....

Jankowski and Sceviour won`t be playing when were healthy...I know. I never said they will. That doesn`t change the fact that Sam Poulin still won`t be playing in the NHL right now...
Apr. 28, 2021 at 8:57 a.m.
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Nah bud.

The only bad take here has been saying Poulin should be playing in the NHL right now. It is wrong for a number of reasons that I`ve gone over multiple times now but you refuse to acknowledge it and just attack me for things I never say. Its sad....

Jankowski and Sceviour won`t be playing when were healthy...I know. I never said they will. That doesn`t change the fact that Sam Poulin still won`t be playing in the NHL right now...


sure thing there, because of Chemistry with jankowski.
Got any more hot takes there?
Apr. 28, 2021 at 5:29 p.m.
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sure thing there, because of Chemistry with jankowski.
Got any more hot takes there?


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