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Created by: SevenLeg

Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: May 2, 2021

Published: May 2, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

-- 2021-22--

Next season is all about trusting the youth.
-Let Romanov take some of Weber's minutes. Including on the PP.
-Put Poehling in a position where he can succeed instead of burying him on the 4th line.
-Keep Suzuki and Toffoli together.
-Play Kotkaniemi with offensive wingers
-Play Caufield with speedy big bodies
-Let Jake Evans fully embrace the 4C role and learn with Perry.
-Trust Primeau as the backup goaltender and sign/trade for an insurance third goaltender.

-Let the UFA veterans not named Corey Perry go.

-- 2022-23 --
-Continue the young players takeover.
-Sign Nick Suzuki to a long-term deal similar to Nico Hischier's
-Sign Alexander Romanov to a bridge-deal similar to Travis Sanheim's and Darnell Nurse's.
-Sign Cayden Primeau to a bridge-deal similar to Thatcher Demko's

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST		YEARS	CAP HIT
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël		3	$813,333

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Teasdale, Joël	1	$750,000
Poehling, Ryan	2	$2,000,000
Evans, Jake	3	$1,666,667
Suzuki, Nick	7	$6,750,000
Romanov, Alexander	2	$3,000,000
Primeau, Cayden	2	$1,050,000
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi	1	$3,100,000
Brook, Josh	2	$800,000
Lehkonen, Artturi	2	$1,750,000
Fleury, Cale	1	$800,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Kulak, Brett	2	$2,000,000
Robinson, Eric	1	$850,000
Danault, Phillip	4	$5,000,000

Trades

MTL

Seattle Expansion Draft

SEA

Allen, Jake

Additional Details:

Protection List :
Anderson, Danault, Drouin, Gallagher, Kotkaniemi, Lehkonen, Toffoli
Edmundson, Kulak, Petry
Price

Exposed :
Allen, Byron, Chiarot, Evans, Fleury, Weber

MTL

Alex Stalock

EDM

2022 6th round pick (MTL)

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333
Paul Byron: $1,533,334

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,000,000	$75,291,726	$1,132,500	$1,270,000	$7,708,274

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi $3,100,000$3,100,000 C UFA - 8	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
Poehling, Ryan $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick $6,750,000$6,750,000 C UFA - 8	Toffoli, Tyler $2,125,000$2,125,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Danault, Phillip $5,000,000$5,000,000 C UFA - 5	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
	Evans, Jake $1,666,667$1,666,667 C UFA - 3	Ylönen, Jesse $880,833$880,833 RW, LW RFA - 1
Lehkonen, Artturi $1,750,000$1,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 5

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Petry, Jeff $2,343,750$2,343,750 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 4
Kulak, Brett $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 4	Romanov, Alexander $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD RFA - 3	Primeau, Cayden $1,050,000$1,050,000 G RFA - 3
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 3	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 4

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Robinson, Eric $850,000$850,000 LW UFA - 2
Fleury, Cale $800,000$800,000 RD RFA - 1

May 2, 2021 at 12:04 p.m.

Kotkaniemi15

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This looks really good, although the cap might be a bit tight. I doubt the cap goes up this soon, and this is likely on the very low end of what Suzuki would command.

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May 2, 2021 at 12:10 p.m.

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

This looks really good, although the cap might be a bit tight. I doubt the cap goes up this soon, and this is likely on the very low end of what Suzuki would command.

I don't think it's impossible for the cap to go up 1.5m in two years. If not, then Suzuki's contract is more likely to resemble this one since I admit I've somewhat deceptively undervalued him.

The cap after this season will be tight unless there is a major increase. Only Drouin is coming off the books and Kotkaniemi, Caufield are in need of new contracts. On a brighter note, by 2022, Weber's contract is starting to be low on real money and I wouldn't rule out a buyout-retirement-LTIR or anything that puts him off the books.

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May 2, 2021 at 12:11 p.m.

Kotkaniemi15

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Also, I was just thinking, stylistically Poehling would probably be a perfect replacement for Tatar with Danault and Gallagher.

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May 2, 2021 at 12:13 p.m.

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

Also, I was just thinking, stylistically Poehling would probably be a perfect replacement for Tatar with Danault and Gallagher.

I very much agree. It's probably a closer replacement for Armia next season but if he grows steadily, by 2022 he could make up for Tatar's top 9 contributions.

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May 2, 2021 at 12:14 p.m.

Kotkaniemi15

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Quoting: SevenLeg

Yeah. I still think it’s a stretch for the NHL to make back their debts plus extra in one season, but we’ll see how it goes. I do think you’d probably have to replace someone like Kulak with a cheaper option, and I wouldn’t be surprised if one or both of Harris/Norlinder are NHL ready by 22-23.

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May 2, 2021 at 12:15 p.m.

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

It is only a minor change but you're right, it is a likely outcome.

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May 2, 2021 at 12:17 p.m.

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With almost 20 million is basically dead cap space in Price and Weber this team is off to no where.
It's basically the same team as they have this year and they are struggling.
They need to find a way to clear out 18 million in cap, and bring in some better players with that cap space.

May 2, 2021 at 12:25 p.m.

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Quoting: pharrow

I'm a down-to-earth man so you would never see me dumping Price to Seattle or anything that resembles that nonsense. But it's the same General Managers who voted Price as the 2nd best goalie tied with Hellebuyck this offseason. There's a tiny chance someone tempts something for him, but still too unlikely to post something around that.

I don't know why so many people view Shea Weber's contract as a fatality. It's not that bad. He's done in a year or two and no matter how it ends, it's the Predators that are in trouble.

May 2, 2021 at 4:06 p.m.

pharrow

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Quoting: SevenLeg

what do the predators have to do with any of it.
According to capfriendly the whole cap hit is MTL.
They need to find a team that needs cap but doesn't want to pay anything. The problem though is teams don't want a contract like that for 3 years.
The best they can hope for is LTIR. But either way, that contract is a mess and I don't see anyone wanting to touch it for another 3 years.

May 2, 2021 at 5:00 p.m.

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Quoting: pharrow

The Shea Weber contract is one of the last few with Parise and Suter that were negotiated under the previous CBA. Some recapture penalty was created to dissuade teams from signing those massive front-loaded contracts and the penalty is given to the teams that signed the contract which is the Preds in Weber's case.

May 2, 2021 at 7:23 p.m.

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Quoting: SevenLeg

capfriendly shows none of that. Just like if Carter were to be bought out, LA is only on the hook for it's 50%.
Shows no recapture.
Even though he too is on an 11 year deal.

May 2, 2021 at 7:34 p.m.

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Edited May 2, 2021 at 7:39 p.m.

Quoting: pharrow

capfriendly shows none of that. Just like if Carter were to be bought out, LA is only on the hook for it's 50%.
Shows no recapture.
Even though he too is on an 11 year deal.

Jeff Carter's deal ends next season and he's probably playing till the end of his contract. Let's say he retires after this year

Here's the Jeff Carter Recapture for next year if he retires after this year:#CBJ $551K Cap Hit#LAKings $3.1M Cap Hit#LetsGoPens $381K Cap Benefit (negative recapture, adds cap space)https://t.co/cqSkXzYamR https://t.co/VKbcZTEYKN
— PuckPedia (@PuckPedia) April 12, 2021

There is indeed a recapture penalty for both LA and Columbus. The penalty only applies for the years when the cap hit was smaller than the total salary and for Weber, those years were in Nashville

It has been amended and the recapture penalty is now less expensive, but longer. Let's say he retires in 2025 :

2025-26
$7,857,143
2026-27
$7,857,143
2027-28
$7,857,143
2028-29
$999,999

The only players left who are eligible for such penalty are Carter, Crosby, Quick, Parise, Suter, Weber, Keith.

May 3, 2021 at 11:14 a.m.

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I mean a goalie who hasn't played for a year for a sixth, oilers take it

May 3, 2021 at 11:22 a.m.

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Quoting: pandemic_p

I mean a goalie who hasn't played for a year for a sixth, oilers take it

It doesn't have to be Stalock specifically, just any lower-end backup/luxury 3rd goalie

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