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Cap trade - getting a long term 2C

Created by: MattyMadden28
Team: 2016-17 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 13, 2017
Published: Jan. 13, 2017
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Ranger get nash (32) 7.8x2 off the books and replace him with a better younger winger in JVR (27) 4.25x2 at just above half the salary. They both have one year after this one and with nash at 34 and JVR at 29 they may be able to resign JVR but nash will likely regress further and not be in the NHL (or not a top 6 player). This trade gives the leafs a vet player to replace JVR for his two years and 2 playoffs runs while he plays out his contract.

Zib is also going to get paid this year and it will likely be in the mid 5s for 6-8 years. He could get mid 6s but I'd like to see him under 6. They may be rich for the rangers. Bozak gives them another year at a good contract. If Bozak stays with JVR he could sign a reasonable short term contract after next year.
The pick and prospect is a sweetner for the future as Zib is a young player.
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23$73,000,000$55,507,833$512,000$5,765,000$17,492,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 3
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 3
$3,900,000$3,900,000
LW, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
$2,625,000$2,625,000
C
UFA - 1
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 2
$2,950,000$2,950,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 2
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
UFA - 6
$686,667$686,667 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
$863,333$863,333
C
UFA - 2
$736,666$736,666 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
RW
UFA - 2
$612,500$612,500
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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UFA - 1
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 5
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LD
UFA - 3
$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 2
$800,000$800,000
G
UFA - 1
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
$600,000$600,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Jan. 13, 2017 at 9:12 p.m.
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VegasGMV2.LeafsGMV1
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Why would Toronto want this? Makes no sense for them
Jan. 13, 2017 at 9:16 p.m.
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6 years for Kadri is the perfect longterm no. 2 center
Jan. 13, 2017 at 9:24 p.m.
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6 years for Kadri is the perfect longterm no. 2 center


At least for a year or 2 until Nylander can take over
Jan. 13, 2017 at 9:29 p.m.
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Zib is better then Kadri. Bigger, more range, can shoot the puck better lol.

And jdp. I explained it. Toronto gets a vet to play out his contract in nash. (Some people think we should let JVR walk and use him for the playoff push). Better to use his younger age as an asset as Toronto won't sign him at 29 (or nash at 34). They get a Zib at 23 year old 2C for the future. Trade Bozak who they also won't resign. Rychel isn't more then Depth likely. The 2nd is a sweetner. So long term it's Zib for Rychel and a 2nd. And the rangers get like 6M (after Zib would have signed) in cap space that the leafs don't need next year but the rangers could use to add other players.
Jan. 13, 2017 at 9:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Canadian_Rednek
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6 years for Kadri is the perfect longterm no. 2 center


At least for a year or 2 until Nylander can take over


He's not the solution. He doesn't like to play hard enough to battle defensively. He could. But he hasn't shown yet.
Jan. 13, 2017 at 9:59 p.m.
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Again, I don't understand the silliness about numbering players as a number 1,2,3 or whatever. Looks like the Leafs have fair balance and their centres of the futures are Matthews, Kadri, Gauthier, maybe Bozak for a 1.5years and who knows about Nylander. Nylander is a full three years younger than Zibs. And certainly Nash isn't as good as JVR now, so the Leafs would prefer to have JVR and 3,5m in cap space than Nash. Rychel is meaningless in the trade, and about 45th overall isn't of much substance right now.
Maybe the trade might be fair, but if the Leafs were to trade Bozak or JVR it should be for a position of need like a Dman or two and not just another LWer and centre. And you indicated Zibs would get 6m a year? Another great reason the Leafs wouldn't want him.
Jan. 13, 2017 at 11:45 p.m.
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Again, I don't understand the silliness about numbering players as a number 1,2,3 or whatever. Looks like the Leafs have fair balance and their centres of the futures are Matthews, Kadri, Gauthier, maybe Bozak for a 1.5years and who knows about Nylander. Nylander is a full three years younger than Zibs. And certainly Nash isn't as good as JVR now, so the Leafs would prefer to have JVR and 3,5m in cap space than Nash. Rychel is meaningless in the trade, and about 45th overall isn't of much substance right now.
Maybe the trade might be fair, but if the Leafs were to trade Bozak or JVR it should be for a position of need like a Dman or two and not just another LWer and centre. And you indicated Zibs would get 6m a year? Another great reason the Leafs wouldn't want him.


Here's the thing. Do you think the leafs take a step back today with Zib and nash over Bozak and JVR. I don't think they do. They actually just take on salary to get a Center 7 years younger and winger 5 years older that plays out his contract. And Looking at the Ufa market, I don't think the leafs need next years salary cap room so they should use it to get a young establish Center for the next 6-8 years at least. Do you think JVR = Zib in talent and Bozak = Nash although they are much differ players. Nash isn't the same player of his late 20s. But what the leafs get is a fix for there young C. We are weak at Center. If one goes down, the Goat may be in our top 6 lol (joking). We don't need as much help on D as you think. At least until after the expansion draft. And I believe we will have some help with Valiev Dermott Nielsen (Corrando lol) in the next year or so. Also maybe one coming in FA. But either way I think the leafs need to replace JVR and Bozak. And get a top 4 right D. These needs are equal.
Jan. 13, 2017 at 11:45 p.m.
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Again, I don't understand the silliness about numbering players as a number 1,2,3 or whatever. Looks like the Leafs have fair balance and their centres of the futures are Matthews, Kadri, Gauthier, maybe Bozak for a 1.5years and who knows about Nylander. Nylander is a full three years younger than Zibs. And certainly Nash isn't as good as JVR now, so the Leafs would prefer to have JVR and 3,5m in cap space than Nash. Rychel is meaningless in the trade, and about 45th overall isn't of much substance right now.
Maybe the trade might be fair, but if the Leafs were to trade Bozak or JVR it should be for a position of need like a Dman or two and not just another LWer and centre. And you indicated Zibs would get 6m a year? Another great reason the Leafs wouldn't want him.


Here's the thing. Do you think the leafs take a step back today with Zib and nash over Bozak and JVR. I don't think they do. They actually just take on salary to get a Center 7 years younger and winger 5 years older that plays out his contract. And Looking at the Ufa market, I don't think the leafs need next years salary cap room so they should use it to get a young establish Center for the next 6-8 years at least. Do you think JVR = Zib in talent and Bozak = Nash although they are much differ players. Nash isn't the same player of his late 20s. But what the leafs get is a fix for there young C. We are weak at Center. If one goes down, the Goat may be in our top 6 lol (joking). We don't need as much help on D as you think. At least until after the expansion draft. And I believe we will have some help with Valiev Dermott Nielsen (Corrando lol) in the next year or so. Also maybe one coming in FA. But either way I think the leafs need to replace JVR and Bozak. And get a top 4 right D. These needs are equal.
Jan. 14, 2017 at 10:52 a.m.
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Matty: I do think the Leafs step back for this year and next with the trade. . You say with the Leafs are weak at centre, only because you traded Bozak and therefore you needed another one (in this case Zigs)r Long term and maybe even short term Zibs is better than Bozak no doubt. But that doesn't mean you want him to pay him 6m a year, and weaken yourself at LW for year and half.
Nash isn't waiving his NMC, so really it's a meaningless trade anyway.
Jan. 15, 2017 at 2:37 a.m.
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It's not a good asset management for TOR. They need top 4 dman preferably one that can quarterback their power play. JVR is the best trading chip they have. It doesn't make a lot of sense for TOR to trade him for another forward, it just doesn't address the need they have.
 
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