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Top Prospect Pools

Created by: NHLfan10506
Team: 2020-21 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: May 5, 2021
Published: May 5, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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1. LA Kings
2. Ottawa
3. Nashville
4. New Jersey
5. Anaheim
6. Detroit
7. Montreal
8. Colorado
9. Minnesota
10. Carolina
11. NY Rangers
12. Toronto
13. Vegas
14. Calgary
15. Florida
16. Boston
17. Edmonton
18. Dallas
19. Washington
20. Winnipeg
21. Buffalo
22. Chicago
23. Dallas
24. Arizona
25. NY Islanders
26. St. Louis
27. Columbus
28. Tampa Bay
29. Vancouver
30. San Jose
31. Pittsburgh
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
30$81,500,000$31,752,500$0$2,375,000$49,747,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$925,000$925,000
LW, C
RFA - 4
Sanderson, Jake
$925,000$925,000
Askarov, Yaroslav
$925,000$925,000
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$925,000$925,000
C
RFA - 4
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$894,167$894,167
LW, RW
RFA - 4
Faber, Brock
$925,000$925,000
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$925,000$925,000
C
RFA - 3
Parssinen, Juuso
$925,000$925,000
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$818,333$818,333 (Performance Bonus$65,000$65K)
LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$825,833$825,833
RW
RFA - 5
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$894,167$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$925,000$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 5
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Holtz, Alexander
$925,000$925,000
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$925,000$925,000
RW, C
RFA - 4
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$894,167$894,167
LW
RFA - 4
Moore, Ian
$925,000$925,000
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$925,000$925,000
RW
RFA - 5
Gritsyuk, Arseni
$925,000$925,000
Thrun, Henry
$925,000$925,000
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$894,167$894,167
RD
RFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$50,000$50K)
C, LW
RFA - 3
Raymond, Lucas
$925,000$925,000
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
RFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 3
Berggren, Jonathan
$925,000$925,000
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
Barron, Justin
$925,000$925,000
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
C
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$880,833$880,833
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW
RFA - 3
Wallinder, William
$925,000$925,000
Harris, Jordan
$925,000$925,000
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$880,833$880,833 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C
RFA - 5
Khusnutdinov, Marat
$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$811,667$811,667 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
RFA - 4

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May 5, 2021 at 5:39 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
Disagree, at least half the teams on this list have better prospects than Nashville. Of the prospects you mentioned, aside from Tomasino and Askarov, the only one that has a legitimate chance at the NHL and given the nod by professional analysts, (IE Pronman/Wheeler), is Farrance. He is considered to have middle six potential at best. Campbell is a stretch to say is the next Johnny Hockey, William Eklund is far more likely to hit that strata than Campbell.

Nashville's prospect pool is good enough to be around 13th or 14th best. But they're nowhere near a top ten prospect pool, and pretty much all national and professional media/analysts agree with that spotting.


I am going to disagree with Wheeler as an expert.
He is a writer with zero scouting experience.
Pronman at least has relationships within the scouting community.
Also, most media lists that were published were done so before this season. So, there’s been movement since.
And, this is my view. There is no right and wrong.

But since you have such strong opinions on the matter, I encourage you to make your own list. Only one rule though: you can’t look at any media lists while making it.
May 5, 2021 at 6:03 p.m.
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I love Perfetti...and Heinola looks legit.
Not high on Lundmark or Vesalainen.
Others look to me like role players.


Vesalainen is playing with the jets right now and let me tell you, this kid is a future 30 goal scorer. He needs some comfidence but once he gets it, he will be soooo good.

Lundmark was 8th on my list, I’m not exactly too high on him either, role player as you said,

Samberg looks legit in the ahl, he can play in the nhl now but the jets probably want to develop some offensive game first.

Smith looks really good. Kid is oozing with skill. Can’t wait to see what he can do. Maybe nothing, but maybe he’s a future top 6 guy. Idk. We’ll see. He’s a wild card.

And the other 3 are role players, I agree. Chisholm has potential for more but they are likely 4-5D and a 3C for gus.

That’s more depth and high end talent than Nashville at least imo.
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May 5, 2021 at 6:17 p.m.
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I am going to disagree with Wheeler as an expert.
He is a writer with zero scouting experience.
Pronman at least has relationships within the scouting community.
Also, most media lists that were published were done so before this season. So, there’s been movement since.
And, this is my view. There is no right and wrong.

But since you have such strong opinions on the matter, I encourage you to make your own list. Only one rule though: you can’t look at any media lists while making it.


I simply used them as examples, my point lent more towards the fact that professionals don't view Nashville's prospect pool as highly as you do. Everyone has different opinions, it's when the mass majority agrees or enough of them have similar placements on a organizations prospect pool that we can get a sense of where everyone belongs.

I'm just saying not a single one had Nashville in the top ten. That's it. I don't disagree with any of your other rankings, and I'm a Wild/Penguins/Shark's fan. I could easily be sitting here arguing about how the Shark's could be higher, but I'm not.

I fully respect that your list is your own, and for the most part, do agree with it. Just not Nashville.

To be fair however, Wheeler may be a writer, but it's disingenuous to say the man doesn't do the work necessary to know what he's talking about. Like Pronman he watches hundreds/thousands of hours of footage of these prospects and also talks with scouts, GM's, and those that watch these kids with any regularity. He and Pronman are no different in that regard, so I'm not certain why you would say that he doesn't?
May 5, 2021 at 6:24 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
I simply used them as examples, my point lent more towards the fact that professionals don't view Nashville's prospect pool as highly as you do. Everyone has different opinions, it's when the mass majority agrees or enough of them have similar placements on a organizations prospect pool that we can get a sense of where everyone belongs.

I'm just saying not a single one had Nashville in the top ten. That's it. I don't disagree with any of your other rankings, and I'm a Wild/Penguins/Shark's fan. I could easily be sitting here arguing about how the Shark's could be higher, but I'm not.

I fully respect that your list is your own, and for the most part, do agree with it. Just not Nashville.

To be fair however, Wheeler may be a writer, but it's disingenuous to say the man doesn't do the work necessary to know what he's talking about. Like Pronman he watches hundreds/thousands of hours of footage of these prospects and also talks with scouts, GM's, and those that watch these kids with any regularity. He and Pronman are no different in that regard, so I'm not certain why you would say that he doesn't?


Wheeler may watch ton of hockey, but he creates lists from his own viewings.
He is a writer, not a talent observer.
Pronman spends his time watching hockey, and writing about it. But he is also known and respected in amateur scouting community.
He derives his lists from conversations with scouts.
May 5, 2021 at 6:44 p.m.
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Wheeler may watch ton of hockey, but he creates lists from his own viewings.
He is a writer, not a talent observer.
Pronman spends his time watching hockey, and writing about it. But he is also known and respected in amateur scouting community.
He derives his lists from conversations with scouts.


And Wheeler isn't? He's just as respected by amateur scouts as Pronman is. That's ludicrous.

https://ca.linkedin.com/in/scottcwheeler

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Feature Writer and QMJHL/OHL ScoutFuture Considerations Hockey Inc

Jan 2016 - Jun 2017
1 year 6 months

Ottawa, ON

• Wrote feature stories on hockey's top prospects, their teams, and their leagues
Interviewed players, coaches, and management staffs to find unique stories
Attended QMJHL and OHL games and provide detailed scouting reports on deadline on potential NHL draftees
• Worked with FC staff to evaluate, rank, and coordinate monthly NHL Draft rankings
• Produced content, features, copy, rankings and scouting reports for annual FC NHL Draft Guide

May 5, 2021 at 6:47 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
And Wheeler isn't? He's just as respected by amateur scouts as Pronman is. That's ludicrous.

https://ca.linkedin.com/in/scottcwheeler

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Feature Writer and QMJHL/OHL ScoutFuture Considerations Hockey Inc

Jan 2016 - Jun 2017
1 year 6 months

Ottawa, ON

• Wrote feature stories on hockey's top prospects, their teams, and their leagues
Interviewed players, coaches, and management staffs to find unique stories
Attended QMJHL and OHL games and provide detailed scouting reports on deadline on potential NHL draftees
• Worked with FC staff to evaluate, rank, and coordinate monthly NHL Draft rankings
• Produced content, features, copy, rankings and scouting reports for annual FC NHL Draft Guide



Wheeler isn't. That is my point.
May 5, 2021 at 6:57 p.m.
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Wheeler isn't. That is my point.


So your point is that a man who has actively known and been apart of the scouting community, interviewed, gone to games, and has pretty much known them since 2014, and is as well respected as Pronman is by that self-same amateur scouting community, doesn't know what he's talking about.

Okay, yeah sure. Whatever you say.
 
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