His minutes per game went up 30 seconds. He played four fewer games. So he played 56 fewer minutes than in 19/20. And he had four PP points, it's nothing to write home about. I'm not saying he's bad or that he was bad, any team would love to have him. But he clearly produced less than the year before. BIf points cut in half (26 down to 13) doesn't even let on a whiff of regression, I don't know what else to tell ya. It's all right there on his stats, for anyone to see.

You said “major regression”.

Again, his minutes per game went up. 30 seconds, great. They went up. It’s not a regression. And like I said, he took on more responsible and was on the ice for critical shifts/possessions.

You can argue over semantics all u want. Fact is, minutes per game went up. Not regressed. Just like I said.!! Sully has major trust in him.

This is just a crazy argument. It’s not my ACGM.

I said Parayko > Marino right now.

But Marino has more potential and Parayko is a UFA after this season. And Marino is signed long term. And Parayko is coming off an injury.

No way the Pens even listen to the deal. And the Blues would accept it faster than a blink of an eye.

If you actually watched Marino both years you could tell Marino improved this year over last. He was given a bigger role and excelled. His analytics show that too. He doesn’t have as many hits or blocks because he had possession more often. Having hits and blocks means you don’t have the puck and you’re getting stuck in your own defensive end. That’s just simple hockey. It’s not my fault that stupid trolls are on this site and regurgitate the same nonsense over and over lol. Heck I didn’t even bring up expansion draft which increases Marino’s value even more and decreases Paraykos value even more. Even non pens/non blues fans agree Marino > Parayko

1- Marino's x+/- (using xG instead of actual goals for and against) dropped from +3.7 to -7.2. So I'm not at all sure what analytics you guys are looking at that tell you his analytics showed improvement from the previous season.

2- Uhh no, he didn't. Again, not sure how you gleaned that from his analytic stats. And again, you keep skipping right around that little points cut in half business.

3- What???? How on Earth do you imagine any of that works?

4- Oi vey... I'm done here. Have a good one in your custom reality.

1. I’ve provided the advanced stats. Marino > Parayko. It’s not my fault you don’t understand advanced stats.
2. Because his possession stats are better this year than last year. Not exactly rocket science.
3. Marino is exempt from the draft and Parayko isn’t. I bet if you ask 31 GM’s if they’d rather one of their top 4 defensemen be flat out exempt from the expansion draft so they could protect the other 3 and I’d bet 31 gm’s would say they would.
4. The only ones living in a custom reality are the Homer blues fans that think Parayko is better than Marino. I mean you’re sitting there looking at point totals to judge how good a defenseman is lol. Cause that’s totally their priority number 1 job. I mean that’s not a battle that you want to get into since Parayko’s point totals have dropped over the past few seasons And his goal total significantly dropped from this season to last season 🤷‍♂️. Would have only had 4 goals in 64 games as opposed to 10 last year. And if you want to bring up injuries…ok, Marino had covid. He also played like half the season with Matheson and helped revive Matheson’s career.

This notion that most NHL fans think Marino is better than Parayko is hi-larious. How many AGMs do you see with people trying to offer a **** ton for Marino? Because there's been dozens upon dozens upon dozens if not hundreds of large Parayko offers. I'm bored with this. Live your custom reality if you wish, there's not even a remote hint of a chance the Blues would accept this offer.

Maybe 2 years ago lol. But there have been plenty that offer a ton for Marino lolol

Nah, dude. Right now, currently. Parayko trades left, right and center. I've seen far more Pens fans trading Marino than other teams' fans trading for him. Just more custom reality claims.

That’s just absolute nonsense and shows you’re the one living in a custom reality. Literally just searched pens acgms and went down the hole first page and didn’t find a single Marino trade, not even troll ones from pens fans. Yet I did the same for the blues and only took going through 6 to find a Parayko trade by a blues fan. The fact of the matter is, the only pens fans trading Marino are either trolls like this acgm poster who spent the whole trade deadline month convinced the pens were trading for Getzlaf and Deslauriers at the deadline and the pens were gonna trade Malkin and Letang in the offseason and another person that was trying to trade him, Zucker, Poulin, and a 1st for an oft-injured 30 something year old defenseman on the downward end of his career because of name sake, or fans trading him for a kings ransom. I see plenty of Oilers fans trying to trade for him back and tons of fans of other teams trying to trade for him. The reason they have died down a little bit is because they get the same response from pens fans. That it’d take a kings ransom as he is the future 1 RHD and expansion exempt.

And just an FYI, the first page of blues AGMs had 4 Parayko trades to the pens trading Marino 0 times.