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Created by: Hat_Trick_Swayze
Published: Jun. 9, 2021 at 1:23 a.m.
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Season Days: 27/116 (23%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Detroit Red WingsDetroit Red Wings

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Bertuzzi, TylerDetroit Red WingsIR-$814,655011---0000--
2021 2nd round pick (Logo of the Detroit Red WingsDET)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Neal, JamesEdmonton OilersNHL-$1,338,362111---0000--
Broberg, PhilipWaivers ExemptEdmonton OilersNHL-$208,125111---0000--
2021 1st round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---100------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$5,137,82124457541015
Change-$731,8322111-10
Final$4,405,989 (↓)26 (↑)46 (↑)76 (↑)5 (↑)9 (↓)15000

Logo of the Edmonton OilersEdmonton Oilers

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $8,217,000
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: $6,436,167
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Neal, JamesEdmonton OilersNHL-$5,750,000111---0000--
Broberg, PhilipWaivers ExemptEdmonton OilersNHL-$894,167111---0000--
2021 1st round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Bertuzzi, TylerDetroit Red WingsIR-$3,500,000011---0000--
2021 2nd round pick (Logo of the Detroit Red WingsDET)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$1,780,8333248633412
Change$3,144,167-2-1-1-110
Final$4,925,000 (↑)30 (↓)47 (↓)62 (↓)2 (↓)5 (↑)12000
Jun. 9, 2021 at 1:26 a.m.
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Hard to give up Bertuzzi., but it’s not a terrible offer, I wouldn’t give up our 2nd round pick, they’d be lucky to get our 5th rounder
Jun. 9, 2021 at 1:30 a.m.
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Edited Jun. 9, 2021 at 1:40 a.m.
Perfect winger for McDavid, cap relief for EDM to sign Nurse

Detroit gets a promising LD prospect, and a 1st

Maybe too generous with that 2nd
Jun. 9, 2021 at 3:08 a.m.
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Edited Jun. 9, 2021 at 3:21 a.m.
Quoting: RedWings35
Hard to give up Bertuzzi., but it’s not a terrible offer, I wouldn’t give up our 2nd round pick, they’d be lucky to get our 5th rounder


Quoting: MeshuGojira
Perfect winger for McDavid, cap relief for EDM to sign Nurse

Detroit gets a promising LD prospect, and a 1st

Maybe too generous with that 2nd


Agreed. This trade seems to be in the right ballpark, though, for both sides. The 2nd Rounder IS a tad optimistic! Losing top prospect Broberg hurts, but adding Bertuzzi would be great for OIlers and if it means shedding Neal and his almost 6 million albatross of a contract, they would have to consider it. Said this on a different mock up . . . building around LD Broberg & RD Seider for the future Red Wings would be something else!!
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Jun. 9, 2021 at 8:40 a.m.
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The return for taking Neal is a 1st +, as his deal has two years left. So by adding Broberg is a start, and is now more than what it takes to dump Neal, but then asking for both Bertuzzi and a 2nd is a bit to much and throw the balance in Oilers side.
Jun. 9, 2021 at 8:42 a.m.
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Swap Broberg with Bouchard and take out the 2nd
Jun. 9, 2021 at 10:27 a.m.
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Quoting: Quillanrocks
Agreed. This trade seems to be in the right ballpark, though, for both sides. The 2nd Rounder IS a tad optimistic! Losing top prospect Broberg hurts, but adding Bertuzzi would be great for OIlers and if it means shedding Neal and his almost 6 million albatross of a contract, they would have to consider it. Said this on a different mock up . . . building around LD Broberg & RD Seider for the future Red Wings would be something else!!



The wings have better d prospects then Broberg on the way but I get what you’re saying 😉
Jun. 9, 2021 at 12:13 p.m.
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The wings have better d prospects then Broberg on the way but I get what you’re saying 😉


Really? Other than Mo Seider, who's that? THN, TSN, and others tell me otherwise. You sure that statement isn't a bit "fave team" biased?
Jun. 9, 2021 at 12:34 p.m.
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Really? Other than Mo Seider, who's that? THN, TSN, and others tell me otherwise. You sure that statement isn't a bit "fave team" biased?


Guaranteed it’s not biased. Eemil Viro, Jared McIsaac Albert Johannsen and William Wallinder are just a few
Jun. 9, 2021 at 1:10 p.m.
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Edited Jun. 9, 2021 at 2:50 p.m.
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Guaranteed it’s not biased. Eemil Viro, Jared McIsaac Albert Johannsen and William Wallinder are just a few


All of which don't make (as an example) The Hockey News' NHL Top 100 Prospect list, where as Broberg (28), Heinola (30), Bouchard (33), Lundkvist (39). and Sandin (50) are all prospect defenseman that do. I know these lists are subjective and all---some players are much higher on one list, lower on others, etc.---but you'll forgive me if I think you're being a tad bit of a homer here! (The list of names in the bottom 50 are pretty decent NHL prospects, also)

By your assertion, if Yzerman were offered Broberg (or perhaps any of the names I just listed) in a trade 1 for 1, for say Viro, you would hope he'd respectfully decline??
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Jun. 9, 2021 at 1:48 p.m.
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Quoting: RedWings35
Guaranteed it’s not biased. Eemil Viro, Jared McIsaac Albert Johannsen and William Wallinder are just a few


Johannson is the only one I would even begin to compare. As hyped as I am for these guys, Broberg still slots in ahead of them.

Anyway, Werenski comes home in '23, so really we just need a 2nd pair LD for Hronek, right? =)
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Jun. 9, 2021 at 3:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Quillanrocks
All of which don't make (as an example) The Hockey News' NHL Top 100 Prospect list, where as Broberg (28), Heinola (30), Bouchard (33), Lundkvist (39). and Sandin (50) are all prospect defenseman that do. I know these lists are subjective and all---some players are much higher on one list, lower on others, etc.---but you'll forgive me if I think you're being a tad bit of a homer here! (The list of names in the bottom 50 are pretty decent NHL prospects, also)


I just think those trades would never happen, Viro could be better than. Broberg he could be worse. I like how you’re optimistic and open minded as am I. Broberg could be the best one day but one of the prospects that I mentioned could end up being the most defensively sound player in the league one day. Hard to judge when players are so young, plus different systems makes guys play better. I’d take Broberg if I was offered for a fair deal but if not I’m not complaining.
Jun. 9, 2021 at 3:46 p.m.
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Quoting: MeshuGojira
Johannson is the only one I would even begin to compare. As hyped as I am for these guys, Broberg still slots in ahead of them.

Anyway, Werenski comes home in '23, so really we just need a 2nd pair LD for Hronek, right? =)


We Need a Left D so bad man, but right side is locked and loaded for the future !
 
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