Blueger is worth far more than a 6th

Did you try to trade for Patrick nemeth or something bc that is one of the worse trades for an avs dman that has been on this site all year

Like, regardless of what the offer is for Devon Toews, he just signed in Colorado and has a lot of term left on a great deal, I don't even think he would be on the market. I think Graves is a lot more realistic of a trade target if you want to go that route. Personally, I feel RHD needs more help anyway.

You're gonna lose one of Toews or Graves to the Kraken. Doesn't matter to me who the Avs want to keep, Canucks are happy to trade for either of them. Here you get a promising prospect and a draft pick. Nate Schmidt was worth a 3rd. Feels like you're getting fair value for one of Graves or Toews.

Possibly. I'm more interested in the salary numbers and how much buying out the Canucks would have to do to transform their roster in to something significantly different than what it is today. I'll leave the trade equity to folks who are better at it than me.

What do you think Blueger is worth?

No less than a 3rd.

No they aren’t going to lose toews or girard

Johnson is waiving, it’s already reported that he’s expected to waive, by avs beat writers a couple days ago

And Schmidt was a cap dump, that why you got him for so
Cheap. You have 0 leverage trading for an avs dman so not even close

So who are your 3 protected players then? If you protect Toews, sounds like it's Toews, Makar, and Girard no? Seattle's not taking Johnson. That's why I'm saying Graves or Toews would be unprotected. (Note that you turned my suggestion of Graves in to Girard in your post - I never said Girard).

Graves is gone; he’s a 3rd pairing dman. Hope Seattle takes him

Avs protect makar girard avbd toews

I'm a Canucklehead like you brother. I mentioned that Graves was the more realistic option. I think you've lost the Avs fans by trying to acquire Toews. My other point being I'd prefer the Canucks look to try to add defensive solidity to the right of defense. We have Hughes and Bones on the left so I really don't think we need another of that type in Graves. Graves would make our team better, but then I'd like to see either of Bones or Hughes moved for some right sided d-man which is a huge risk. You wouldn't win a trade like that, since the right sided guy would strictly be worse than Bones or Hughes. TLDR, I think we take our medicine next year and wait for the aforementioned young Canucks d-men to mature.



Avs guy, this is where you lost me. I'm not sure why Sakic decides to lose Graves for nothing. Graves has value here. If you're going to lose him, you might as well lose him for something. No need to let the Kraken have their way with you. I know Graves may not seem like much to you, given you guys have the best defense in the league, but he would mean a heck of a lot to the Canucks. He's at least a 2nd pair guy on all but like 3 teams. He would be a first pairing guy on 5 teams.

Bc the avs have to lose a guy that is decent for nothing no matter what

Trade graves away still lose donskoi or whomever, you can’t escape having someone that’s decent on the avs

Graves is a 4/5 dman, he’s not anything more than that league wide, decent hut nothing special, you can find guys like him every year.

Let seatttle their guy so avs don’t have to mess with their roster as much, trading anyone for pennies on the dollar doesn’t help the avs just makes things worse