Why do you think Minnesota would give up a top 6 winger and a 3rd round pick for a 3rd round prospect that hasn’t done anything and a 2nd round pick? This is surely a joke

The Zucker and Petterson and Riikola trades are to just get them off the team lol

Fun Fact I posted a earlier team asking fans what the asking price of Greenway would be. The comment was: Greenway: Late(very late) 1st or 2nd+prospect(A-/B+)... So yes I probably would've taken out the 3rd round from Minnesota. (Greenway for Legare/2nd) So it isn't a joke and don't call me surely.

legare is a C prospect at best, he’s not really that good. He’s the 4th best prospect pittsburgh has, but the pens pipeline is worst in the league

Greenway for Legare/2nd/3rd?

Legare will never amount to anything in the NHL and we already have half your picks in this years draft lol. If you want greenway you would have to give us next years 1st and a better prospect. Your getting a proven top 6 winger and we would be getting an unproven 3rd round draft pick and a 2nd round draft pick. That’s horrible value for MN.

Greenway isn’t a top 6 winger lol. He is middle 6, but more of a 3rd liner production wise.



And this folks is why you don’t do drugs lol. Legare is the pens 2nd best prospect first of all, second he is a b to b+ prospect as his only issue was his skating, which he has worked on and looked a lot better this past year. Third the pens pipeline isn’t the worst pipeline in the league. Bottom 5 maybe, but not the worst lol. It would just be wise not to make a comment if you don’t know the players involved. It just looks bad when you do.

Greenway is most definitely a 2nd line winger. If not for him averaging over .5 points a game its for his defensive play. He played a huge role shutting down other teams opposing first lines this year which you obviously aren’t aware of if you think he should be playing 3rd line minutes. Secondly, we don’t care how good of a prospect Legare is in your pipeline, in Minnesota’s pipeline he would be probably the 7-8th best prospect. We have no need for him and he likely won’t ever have a real starting job unless its in a desolate pipeline like the Pens. I mean the guy only put up 24 pts in 19 games in the Qmjhl at age 20. The wilds 5-6 best prospect right now finished with the 2nd most points in the Qmjhl behind lafreniere in 2019-2020 at age 20 with 99 pts in 51 games and he probably won’t ever get a starting job. That speaks volumes as to how invaluable Legare would be to the Wild.

His overall offensive numbers have regressed 2 years in a row. Even if you isolate this year post-trade, it’s still a lower rate of production than his draft year. His skating was terrible, and even though he’s worked on it, it’s still below average at best, and the NHL has a lot better skaters than the Q. This is also a pretty major flaw for prospects that aren’t very good to elite in multiple other areas, given the speed of today’s game. His defensive play is nothing to write home about. He relies on skilled linemates to have success. His only strength is his shot and willingness to shoot. His current projection tops out as an “intense, physical checker” (THN Future Watch), and he’s gonna have to pull significant improvement in his skating or defense outta somewhere the sun don’t shine to move any higher than the bottom six at the NHL level, if he even makes it that far. Not every 3rd round pick is gonna make it, and he isn’t exactly showing that it was a mistake that he went that low.

As for 2nd in your prospect pool, at this point I’d rather have both Clang and Blomqvist than Legare. They have higher projections than Legare, and haven’t obviously regressed for 2 years running. Goalies take longer to figure out, but Legare shoulda shown some significant improvement by now if he wanted to be the #2 prospect in the pipeline and be seen as a legitimate threat to crack the NHL.

And yes, the penguins are most definitely last lol. That’s mostly because they’ve traded all their 1sts because they’ve been good, which is fine, but that leaves their pipeline barren, and they haven’t had any hits in the late rounds recently, and the guys that do look good get traded immediately (every single player they’ve drafted in the last 6 drafts has either never played an NHL game or plays for a different team lol). I think the most telling argument for Legare not being that great is the fact that he hasn’t already been flipped for an NHL ready player lmao. Back on the pipeline though, the only teams that come close to being as mediocre as the Pens are San Jose and Tampa. The Sharks probably were worse before 2020 (they had like, Merkley, Kniazev, a couple guys who could step in as depth pieces, and nothing else, neither of those sniff Poulin so the Pens woulda had the edge before last draft), but then in the 2020 draft they picked up Bordeleau, Wiesblatt, Gushchin, and Robins, who were all pretty solid picks, so it’s hard to argue the Pens are better than the Sharks anymore. As for Tampa, the crown jewel is Alnefelt, and then they have a slew of guys ready for a shot in a depth role (ABB, Colton, Raddysh, Katchouk, Perbix). Poulin has the highest upside of any prospect in either pipeline (Alnefelt 2nd, he had above a .900 sv% on the literal worst team in Sweden), but the Lightning have more guys that could realistically crack an NHL lineup. If you want to call them 30th and the Lightning last I could give you that, but they’re definitely bottom 2 regardless.

Exactly my point. You just proved Greenway is a 3rd line defensive checking forward. I appreciate that. As for Legare, just because he may be the 7th-8th best prospect in one organizations pipeline, doesn’t make him any less of a prospect. I’m happy for you that your org is well stocked on prospects. But wild fans, according to the OP, said to get greenway would be a 2nd and B-B+ prospect. Legare absolutely is that.
And Arvidsson literally just went for a 2nd and 3rd. So that should hint where Greenway would go lol.

Not even attempting to read this book of nonsense lol. So I’ll just go based on what I skimmed and the first paragraph. And I just let you know now, you show exactly that you don’t know anything about the pens organization or prospects lol. Legare’s stats regressed the past 2 years? Here is is PPG from his start in QMJHL until this season. Year 1.) 0.47. Year 2.) 1.28. Year 3.) 1.16. Year 4. (Covid shortened season) 1.00. Year 5. (This year) 1.26. Hardly a regression this year. If anything a progression. And working on his skating played a big factor in that.
And every coach and hockey guru that has watched him play this year vs last year has said his skating is much improved not only in the way he skates but the speed to go along with it. So hardly an average skater still. As for his defensive game, this is where it really proves you know squat. Everyone again who has actually watched his game and knows hockey has said he is great defensively. Here is from 2019-2020 season. The fact that he has improved since just makes him that much better. Lolol. And yes Legare is definitely the #2 prospect right behind Poulin in the pipeline.

From Future Considerations:

A competitive power forward, he has a quick and powerful stride with great edge work but average speed. He still lacks fluidity in his skating and he needs to improve his agility to keep up with others at the next level. He also needs to work on his stickhandling skills but he is always ready for a rebound in front of the net. He never gives up on the play and puts the effort in everything he does on the ice. Very detailed in that regard. He finishes his checks and is effective in getting in on the forecheck to disrupt breakouts or force turnovers. Sound positioning in the offensive zone, he has a great shot with a lot of power behind it. Isn’t afraid to throw a big hit or crash the net and protects the puck well. Defensively, he backchecks with intensity and has great stick placement and will always show willingness to help his teammates in puck battles. Plays with high-pressure intensity and that style creates a lot of turnovers that his team can capitalize on. Needs to work on some high-end skills, but he plays with heart on his sleeve and character on every shift. He is someone who will get under the skin of his opponents at times, and you can expect him to win most of his puck battles while drawing penalties from time to time. However, his skating skills and work with the puck will need to improve to have a shot to play at the highest level.
From McKeens Hockey:

If there is a player in this tier of the rankings who has a chance to far outpace our expectations down the line, it might be Legare. There isn’t any one part of his game that makes the careful observer sit up and get excited, but he puts the puck in the net at a stellar clip. The former sixth overall pick of the QMJHL Entry Draft in 2017, he took off in a big way in his draft eligible year, increasing his scoring output from 10 goals as a rookie to a team high 45, narrowly edging out San Jose prospect Ivan Chekhovich and finishing only three goals back of the league lead. A beefy winger, Legare is not the fastest skater, but he is still able to play the game with speed. He keeps his feet moving, takes large strides and changes direction pretty well. His offensive skills project to an above average rate, with solid stickhandling, sharp passing ability and a nice one-timer. For Baie-Comeau, he took it upon himself to be a primary shot generator, with a lot of game practice on both his wrist shot and slap shot. He endears himself to coaches with the way he pressures opponents at both ends as well as how he uses his mature frame to protect the puck and create room for himself down low. It is hard to see his blend of skills settling in above the third line, but it is also hard to see him descending to a level much lower than that.

Well first of all “Year 4” and “Year 5” were the same year, and combine to a 1.15 ppg (and I specifically mentioned that even post-trade his numbers were lower than his draft year). The highest ppg was “Year 2” (his draft year) which is what I told you. So good job trying to correct me and not even being able to tell what year the stats are from lmao, while simultaneously proving my point that he has statistically regressed for 2 years (1.16 is lower than 1.28, and 1.15, his average for 20-21, is lower than 1.16).

Even the scouting report you mentioned calls him an average skater, which is generous if you read multiple reports, and regardless, average in the Q is a step below the NHL, it still needs significant work to get to a satisfactory level for the pros, and if you read enough scouting reports you start to get a feel for the verbiage—if something is notable enough to get brought up as a weakness, or average at best, especially skating, it typically means that’s a hindrance in their development and could affect their ability to make the NHL. You can’t claim he’s “hardly average anymore” and then post one report that calls him an average skater and another that calls him not the fastest skater lmao. Your own copy/paste there concludes with exactly what I said—he tops out as an “intense, physical checker” in the bottom six. His ability to produce offense will likely fall in the NHL, as it did on a mediocre team in the Q pre-trade, as he needed high end linemates to produce at a high level, he couldn’t carry that himself, but then we get back to the point that he won’t get the opportunity to play with high end players in the NHL because he won’t be able to keep up. As for his defensive game, it was atrocious in 19-20 and I hadn’t read anything that said he improved significantly there. There’s a difference between playing with intensity and being physical, and actually being good defensively. His poor numbers may have been the product of being on a mediocre team, but it’s not exactly a strength either. If he’s shown that he’s decent at it now, good for him, that might help him crack the bottom six of an NHL team one day if he continues to work on his defensive awareness, but he’s not the next Mark Stone. Seems like you need to actually read what you copied and come up with some realistic expectations lmao, he might be a decent depth piece one day but he’s not got much high end potential, and that’s fine, that is typically what you’d expect to get from a mid-round pick that turns out well, but that doesn’t make him a good prospect, every team tends to have at least a few guys in the same sorta range as him, but he’s the only one Pittsburgh has. And I guess to each their own, but I’d rather have a promising 19yo goalie than a 20yo forward that might crack the bottom six in a couple years. And at the end of the day, Legare even being your 4th best prospect isn’t good, Tampa is the only other pipeline where he might crack the top 5, and he’d probably be outside the top 10 for half the league.

Yikes, ok again not reading your whole novel. Year 4 and year 5 were still with 2 different teams. Not uncommon for players to do better on better teams. But even together he had a similar ppg the past two years. So hardly regressing. It’s minuscule at best.
And I’m assuming you can’t read. These were from 2019 lolol. Right after the draft year. And it’s made clear when you claim his defense was atrocious when every hockey expert that watched him say differently. I’ll trust them way more than some schmuck on capfriendly lmao

If you don’t read the other side, then you won’t learn anything, and your opinion becomes invalid when you refuse to accept the facts lol. Scouting reports from 2 years ago don’t matter when he has irrefutably regressed for 2 years running, you would expect a 20yo to do much better than an 18yo in the same league, not significantly worse. And all my points are based on scouting reports I’ve read more recently than his draft year lol, look at his 2020 entry on dobber for example, it says he was poor defensively, and being a poor skater doesn’t exactly help, even if he has improved his defensive awareness in his draft+2 year (debatable). He’s a perfectly ok 3rd round pick. He’s nothing special.

But he didn’t do significantly worse. He improved. He’s become a more complete player. If you don’t actually know about other teams and don’t watch them, then you don’t actually learn anything.