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prioritizing defense read discerption

Created by: pastrnak_is_my_dad
Initial Creation Date: Jul 11, 2021
Published: Jul 11 at 10:13
Team: 2021-22 Boston Bruins
Team Explanation
did I more bottom 6 focused ACGM earlier this is a more defensive minded one while hoping players like DeBrusk and Kuraly can bounce back.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Carlo, Brandon4$4,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hall, Taylor4$6,000,000
Krejci, David2$4,000,000
Miller, Kevan1$1,000,000
Rask, Tuukka1$3,000,000
Tinordi, Jarred1$1,000,000
Kuraly, Sean1$1,000,000
McCabe, Jake5$2,500,000
Coleman, Blake4$4,000,000
Bogosian, Zach1$1,250,000
Lundqvist, Henrik1$1,000,000
Trades
BOS
  1. Lindholm, Hampus
ANA
  1. Lauzon, Jérémy
  2. Studnicka, Jack
  3. 2021 1st round pick (BOS)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
TOR
2022
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
2023
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,916,230$1,956,507$125,000$3,583,770

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
BOS
Marchand, Brad
$6,125,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 4
BOS
Bergeron, Patrice
$6,875,000
C
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
BOS
Pastrnak, David
$6,666,667
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
BOS
Hall, Taylor
$6,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 4
BOS
Krejci, David
$4,000,000
C
UFA
BOS
Smith, Craig
$3,100,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
BOS
DeBrusk, Jake
$3,675,000
LW
RFA - 1
BOS
Coyle, Charlie
$5,250,000
C, RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 5
Coleman, Blake
$4,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 6
BOS
Frederic, Trent
$1,050,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
BOS
Kuraly, Sean
$1,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
BOS
Lazar, Curtis
$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
ANA
Lindholm, Hampus
$5,205,556
LD
UFA - 1
BOS
McAvoy, Charlie
$4,900,000
RD
RFA - 1
BOS
Swayman, Jeremy
$925,000
G
RFA - 2
BOS
Grzelcyk, Matt
$3,687,500
LD
UFA - 3
BOS
Carlo, Brandon
$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 6
Lundqvist, Henrik
$1,000,000
G
UFA
McCabe, Jake
$2,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
BOS
Miller, Kevan
$1,000,000
RD
UFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BOS
Kuhlman, Karson
$725,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
BOS
Tinordi, Jarred
$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
BOS
Moore, John
$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 2
BOS
Clifton, Connor
$1,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
BOS
Rask, Tuukka
$3,000,000
G
UFA
Bogosian, Zach
$1,250,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
Taxi Squad
BOS
Wagner, Chris
$1,350,000 ($225,000)
RW, C
UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Hall, T.
Bergeron, P.
Marchand, B.
McAvoy, C.
Pastrnak, D.
Power Play 2
DeBrusk, J.
Coyle, C.
Smith, C.
Grzelcyk, M.
Krejci, D.
Penalty Kill 1
Bergeron, P.
Marchand, B.
Lindholm, H.
McAvoy, C.

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Jul 11 at 10:18
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bhavikp27
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Bruins won't trade Studnicka unless a top6 C is coming back. $1M for Jarred Tinordi...
Jul 11 at 10:23
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Bruins won't trade Studnicka unless a top6 C is coming back. $1M for Jarred Tinordi...


Jarred Tinoriss (he will win one) was a great 7-8th d man and was solid in the playoffs. Studnicka getting moved for a guy like Lindholm is ok with me as Beecher and Frederic are in the system and Studnicka has struggled in the NHL. Lindholm would be a great peice for the defense and happens to be on the younger end.
Jul 11 at 10:29
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bhavikp27
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Quoting: pastrnak_is_my_dad
Jarred Tinoriss (he will win one) was a great 7-8th d man and was solid in the playoffs. Studnicka getting moved for a guy like Lindholm is ok with me as Beecher and Frederic are in the system and Studnicka has struggled in the NHL. Lindholm would be a great peice for the defense and happens to be on the younger end.


Beecher is projected to be a bottom-6 C, Frederic 4th liner. Studnicka is the only one with some top6 upside. Bruins won't trade him. Lindholm is also UFA next year.
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Jul 11 at 11:22
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Dekesaladekes
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Beecher is projected to be a bottom-6 C, Frederic 4th liner. Studnicka is the only one with some top6 upside. Bruins won't trade him. Lindholm is also UFA next year.


thats just a projection though players can breakout at any point in their career, beecher has the speed and size to play at a high level in the nhl if he can just become a better puck handler and get a little more accurate with his shot then you could be looking at a j. anderson/ tuch/ kreider build like player . stud is supposed to become a top 6 player but he didn't look so hot this season compared to his last 2 before
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Jul 12 at 11:15
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Beecher is projected to be a bottom-6 C, Frederic 4th liner. Studnicka is the only one with some top6 upside. Bruins won't trade him. Lindholm is also UFA next year.


Studnicka has been horrible in a bruins jersey and has only been good at the AHL level. Also who would he replace in the lineup? There is no room for Studnicka on the bruins unless we start a rebuild.
Jul 12 at 11:25
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bhavikp27
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Quoting: pastrnak_is_my_dad
Studnicka has been horrible in a bruins jersey and has only been good at the AHL level. Also who would he replace in the lineup? There is no room for Studnicka on the bruins unless we start a rebuild.


He wasn't horrible, he wasn't good either but he played on all four lines and both C/RW in 3-4 different stints. Studnicka could have an opportunity on the 3rd line or 4th.
Jul 12 at 11:33
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Quoting: bhavikp27
He wasn't horrible, he wasn't good either but he played on all four lines and both C/RW in 3-4 different stints. Studnicka could have an opportunity on the 3rd line or 4th.


for who? He would be a healthy scratch unless someone gets injured. If the bruins get Hyman and Coleman the top 9 is out of reach for jack, and putting him on the 4th line would just stunt his development.
Jul 12 at 11:54
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bhavikp27
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Quoting: pastrnak_is_my_dad
for who? He would be a healthy scratch unless someone gets injured. If the bruins get Hyman and Coleman the top 9 is out of reach for jack, and putting him on the 4th line would just stunt his development.


It's unlikely Bruins add two top9 players. Only way it happens is if they move on from DeBrusk, Ritchie and Kase. Bruins see Studnicka as a top6 C when Krejci/Bergeron retire, they have probably refused several good offers that included him. There is almost no chance they move him (unless it's for a top6 C), not a top4 D with one year left on his deal.
Jul 12 at 12:14
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Quoting: bhavikp27
It's unlikely Bruins add two top9 players. Only way it happens is if they move on from DeBrusk, Ritchie and Kase. Bruins see Studnicka as a top6 C when Krejci/Bergeron retire, they have probably refused several good offers that included him. There is almost no chance they move him (unless it's for a top6 C), not a top4 D with one year left on his deal.


dawg this is assuming they get coleman and hyman not what is happening IRL also Its highly likely DeBrusk, Ritchie and Kase are all gone by next year.
Jul 12 at 12:14
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Quoting: bhavikp27
It's unlikely Bruins add two top9 players. Only way it happens is if they move on from DeBrusk, Ritchie and Kase. Bruins see Studnicka as a top6 C when Krejci/Bergeron retire, they have probably refused several good offers that included him. There is almost no chance they move him (unless it's for a top6 C), not a top4 D with one year left on his deal.


are all here my bad
Jul 12 at 4:25
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Quoting: pastrnak_is_my_dad
Studnicka has been horrible in a bruins jersey and has only been good at the AHL level. Also who would he replace in the lineup? There is no room for Studnicka on the bruins unless we start a rebuild.


Quoting: pastrnak_is_my_dad
for who? He would be a healthy scratch unless someone gets injured. If the bruins get Hyman and Coleman the top 9 is out of reach for jack, and putting him on the 4th line would just stunt his development.


He should replace Kuraly. Better player with more room to grow. Bruins have high expectations for him so they will want to develop him. Full time 4th line center is a good start and go from there.
Jul 12 at 4:48
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He should replace Kuraly. Better player with more room to grow. Bruins have high expectations for him so they will want to develop him. Full time 4th line center is a good start and go from there.


putting him on the 4th line would be forcing him into a role he does not belong in. Would rather package him and get a first pairing defensemen then a 4th line skill guy
Jul 12 at 8:21
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putting him on the 4th line would be forcing him into a role he does not belong in. Would rather package him and get a first pairing defensemen then a 4th line skill guy


What's wrong with having some skill centering your fourth line? If two teams have equal will almost always the team with more skill will win. In 22 NHL games Jack Studnicka has 1 G and 3A. Those statistics and the fact that you won't even play him on the 4th line but at he same time you think he is going to have value to help you acquire a first pairing defensemen? That defies logic. He is nothing right now, not a 4th line skill guy (your words) not a 3C and not a top 6F. He has no role right now and to find his niche he has to start somewhere and like the majority of NHL players that usually means working your way UP the lineup which means you have to start DOWN in the lineup. If you want to stick with a very very limited non skill guy (my words) in Kuraly centering the 4th line you are welcome too. Just realize that 4th line was terrible last year and isn't going to be much different this year with that decision. You can still go out and get your first pairing defenseman. Just consider improving your 4th line with Studnicka at center.
Jul 12 at 10:36
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Quoting: BruinsCharlies
What's wrong with having some skill centering your fourth line? If two teams have equal will almost always the team with more skill will win. In 22 NHL games Jack Studnicka has 1 G and 3A. Those statistics and the fact that you won't even play him on the 4th line but at he same time you think he is going to have value to help you acquire a first pairing defensemen? That defies logic. He is nothing right now, not a 4th line skill guy (your words) not a 3C and not a top 6F. He has no role right now and to find his niche he has to start somewhere and like the majority of NHL players that usually means working your way UP the lineup which means you have to start DOWN in the lineup. If you want to stick with a very very limited non skill guy (my words) in Kuraly centering the 4th line you are welcome too. Just realize that 4th line was terrible last year and isn't going to be much different this year with that decision. You can still go out and get your first pairing defenseman. Just consider improving your 4th line with Studnicka at center.


for me its nots that studnicka isnt good enough its that he doesnt fit the timeline. bruins need a 4th line center but we need a physical 4th line center a 6'1" 175 lb kid won't fill that need. bruins are in a win now mode and need the best players they can get, stud has value but he holds more value to a rebuilding team that has the time to develop him better and unfortunately the one thing bruins don't have is time. we have about 2 really competitive years left before we need to retool or rebuild but by that time stud's skill and value would be wasted. if stud was the key piece to us aquiring a top 4 defenceman or top 6 winger that can help us win the cup next season, yes as much as i like the guy and want him long term in a bruins jersey i know that sacrifices need to be made to win the cup and he could be one of them if the price is right


Quoting: pastrnak_is_my_dad
putting him on the 4th line would be forcing him into a role he does not belong in. Would rather package him and get a first pairing defensemen then a 4th line skill guy
Jul 13 at 11:16
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Quoting: Dekes
for me its nots that studnicka isnt good enough its that he doesnt fit the timeline. bruins need a 4th line center but we need a physical 4th line center a 6'1" 175 lb kid won't fill that need. bruins are in a win now mode and need the best players they can get, stud has value but he holds more value to a rebuilding team that has the time to develop him better and unfortunately the one thing bruins don't have is time. we have about 2 really competitive years left before we need to retool or rebuild but by that time stud's skill and value would be wasted. if stud was the key piece to us aquiring a top 4 defenceman or top 6 winger that can help us win the cup next season, yes as much as i like the guy and want him long term in a bruins jersey i know that sacrifices need to be made to win the cup and he could be one of them if the price is right


completly agree I love Studnickas game however there will be no room for him in the lineup in the next 2 years.
Jul 13 at 4:42
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Quoting: Dekes
for me its nots that studnicka isnt good enough its that he doesnt fit the timeline. bruins need a 4th line center but we need a physical 4th line center a 6'1" 175 lb kid won't fill that need. bruins are in a win now mode and need the best players they can get, stud has value but he holds more value to a rebuilding team that has the time to develop him better and unfortunately the one thing bruins don't have is time. we have about 2 really competitive years left before we need to retool or rebuild but by that time stud's skill and value would be wasted. if stud was the key piece to us aquiring a top 4 defenceman or top 6 winger that can help us win the cup next season, yes as much as i like the guy and want him long term in a bruins jersey i know that sacrifices need to be made to win the cup and he could be one of them if the price is right


You have explained yourself well and I see your perspective. What it boils down to for me is that the last two times we traded 1sts and and young prospects in the Nash and Kase deals we really took it on the chin. With the cap room the Bruins have I just feel that free agency is the way to go in acquiring top 4 D and/or top 6 W. There are enough available and the Bruins should be in on many. Of course if DS butchers that like he did the Belesky and Backes signings well.....At least the Craig Smith signing gives me some hope that he can get it right. Keep the picks and the young prospects because the retool/rebuild you bring up might only be one year away. Studnicka will only be 23 at that point so it would not be a waste of his skill and value. At least tell me we can do better than Kuraly as our "physical 4th line center". Either way the next 3 weeks will be interesting!
Jul 13 at 11:09
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Dekesaladekes
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Quoting: BruinsCharlies
You have explained yourself well and I see your perspective. What it boils down to for me is that the last two times we traded 1sts and and young prospects in the Nash and Kase deals we really took it on the chin. With the cap room the Bruins have I just feel that free agency is the way to go in acquiring top 4 D and/or top 6 W. There are enough available and the Bruins should be in on many. Of course if DS butchers that like he did the Belesky and Backes signings well.....At least the Craig Smith signing gives me some hope that he can get it right. Keep the picks and the young prospects because the retool/rebuild you bring up might only be one year away. Studnicka will only be 23 at that point so it would not be a waste of his skill and value. At least tell me we can do better than Kuraly as our "physical 4th line center". Either way the next 3 weeks will be interesting!


i am very excited they need to make some big changes and if im being honest the only way id be satisfied moving stud is if it's for garland, graves or some around that skill level and under the age of 26 because atleast they still have a future not a past like players like ekholm and tarasenko who don't hold much value for us if we weren't to win next year
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Jul 30 at 10:31
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Quoting: pastrnak_is_my_dad
completly agree I love Studnickas game however there will be no room for him in the lineup in the next 2 years.


Just saw your ACGM STUDNICKA SZN. Funny how things can change in two weeks.
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Jul 30 at 10:41
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Quoting: BruinsCharlies
Just saw your ACGM STUDNICKA SZN. Funny how things can change in two weeks.


welp what can I say? It's Studnicka szn.
 
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