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Something unexpected is gonna happen

Created by: GirouxCrew
Initial Creation Date: Jul 13, 2021
Published: Jul 13 at 9:13
Team: 2021-22 Philadelphia Flyers
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Patrick, Nolan1$1,000,000
Garland, Conor6$5,250,000
Hart, Carter2$2,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Suter, Ryan1$2,000,000
Larsson, Adam5$4,500,000
Ullmark, Linus3$4,000,000
Trades
PHI
    Expansion Draft
    SEA
    1. Voracek, Jakub
    PHI
    1. Tarasenko, Vladimir
    STL
    1. van Riemsdyk, James
    2. Strome, Matthew
    PHI
    1. Garland, Conor [RFA Rights]
    2. Söderström, Victor
    ARI
    1. Konecny, Travis
    2. Sanheim, Travis [RFA Rights]
    PHI
    1. 2021 3rd round pick (SEA)
    SEA
    1. Gostisbehere, Shayne ($2,000,000 retained)
    PHI
    1. McDonagh, Ryan
    2. Cirelli, Anthony
    TBL
    1. Frost, Morgan
    2. Myers, Philippe
    3. Braun, Justin
    4. Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
    5. Ratcliffe, Isaac
    6. 2021 2nd round pick (PHI)
    Additional Details:
    TB sheds much needed salary, gets quality young replacements, replacement experience on the blue line for losing mcdonagh and some grit/energy for the bottom 6 for losing one or both of barclay/goodrow
    Buyouts
    • Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Shayne Gostisbehere: $2,000,000 (44.44%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    PHI
    PHI
    SEA
    PHI
    VGK
    PHI
    PHI
    2022
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    STL
    2023
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    PHI
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$79,845,356$0$1,950,000$1,654,644
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    PHI
    Giroux, Claude
    $8,275,000
    LW, C, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    PHI
    Couturier, Sean
    $4,333,333
    C
    UFA - 1
    STL
    Tarasenko, Vladimir
    $7,500,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    PHI
    Farabee, Joel
    $925,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    TBL
    Cirelli, Anthony
    $4,800,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    Garland, Conor
    $5,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 5
    PHI
    Lindblom, Oskar
    $3,000,000
    LW
    RFA - 2
    PHI
    Hayes, Kevin
    $7,142,857
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    PHI
    Allison, Wade
    $925,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    PHI
    Laughton, Scott
    $3,000,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 5
    PHI
    Patrick, Nolan
    $1,000,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 2
    PHI
    Laczynski, Tanner
    $925,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    PHI
    Provorov, Ivan
    $6,750,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
    TBL
    McDonagh, Ryan
    $6,750,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    PHI
    Hart, Carter
    $2,500,000
    G
    RFA - 3
    PHI
    York, Cam
    $880,833
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Larsson, Adam
    $4,500,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Ullmark, Linus
    $4,000,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Suter, Ryan
    $2,000,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    ARI
    Söderström, Victor
    $863,333
    RD
    RFA - 3
    PHI
    Hägg, Robert
    $1,600,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    PHI
    Cates, Jackson
    $925,000
    C
    RFA - 1

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    Jul 13 at 9:17
    #1
    LongtimeLeafsufferer
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    Actually value wise, I like the trades. But McDonagh's NTC kills that deal. That's too much term for Larsson IMO
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    Jul 13 at 9:23
    #2
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    Quoting: palhal
    Actually value wise, I like the trades. But McDonagh's NTC kills that deal. That's too much term for Larsson IMO

    My guess is Larsson is offered quite a few 4x4 so someone is going to offer more. Flyers are desperate to be better defensively so I wouldn’t be shocked to see them be the ones to overpay. As for McDonagh, there’s so many guys with clauses, they’re gonna have to convince someone to go. Since he has 2 cups now he might be more willing
    Jul 13 at 9:26
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    I like the idea behind the Coyotes deal. I'd rather try to just do Soderstrom for Sanhiem straight up but that's a really interesting deal that is pretty fair on both sides.

    I don't really wanna touch Larsson but everything else is pretty solid. The Lightning deal I'd do that in a heartbeat.
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    Jul 13 at 9:30
    #4
    LongtimeLeafsufferer
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    Quoting: GirouxCrew
    My guess is Larsson is offered quite a few 4x4 so someone is going to offer more. Flyers are desperate to be better defensively so I wouldn’t be shocked to see them be the ones to overpay. As for McDonagh, there’s so many guys with clauses, someone they’re gonna have to convince someone to go. Since he has 2 cups now he might be more willing


    Sorry I disagree with your McDonagh logic. He is more motivated to stay in Tampa more than ever. Johnson, McDonagh, Gourde, Stamkos, Kutcherov, Valiesky have no motivation to waive their trade clauses.
    Killorn and Palat have M NTCs are the most logical to go. And I don't know why there are so many don't want to put Sergachev or another good young player with cap on the trading block...if needed.
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    Jul 13 at 9:51
    #5
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    Quoting: palhal
    Sorry I disagree with your McDonagh logic. He is more motivated to stay in Tampa more than ever. Johnson, McDonagh, Gourde, Stamkos, Kutcherov, Valiesky have no motivation to waive their trade clauses.
    Killorn and Palat have M NTCs are the most logical to go. And I don't know why there are so many don't want to put Sergachev or another good young player with cap on the trading block...if needed.


    Well if TB is 18 mil over the cap, even if they traded mcdonagh, cirelli, Killorn and Palat that’s almost 21.5 million. And that’s with taking no salary back. They’re gonna have to make a lot of moves. I think that’s also where the stamkos talk is coming from. They have a lot of work to do. And who knows who Seattle is going to take from them and how much relief they get from that alone. It will be interesting for sure
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    Jul 13 at 11:08
    #6
    Drumman44
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    What would you want from the Blackhawks for Voracek? We have protection space
    Jul 14 at 5:31
    #7
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    Quoting: DrumMan44
    What would you want from the Blackhawks for Voracek? We have protection space


    Idk what deal would make sense between them but the list of players I’d be interested in from the blackhawks are: Kane, Kubalik, Strome, Debrincat, Boqvist, Dach, Murphy and Reichel. Any of those you’d be willing to part with?
    Jul 14 at 10:41
    #8
    Drumman44
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    Quoting: GirouxCrew
    Idk what deal would make sense between them but the list of players I’d be interested in from the blackhawks are: Kane, Kubalik, Strome, Debrincat, Boqvist, Dach, Murphy and Reichel. Any of those you’d be willing to part with?


    I mean no but you have him going to Seattle for nothing. Figured you'd be interested in getting some value back. I know I would
    Jul 14 at 12:25
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    Quoting: DrumMan44
    I mean no but you have him going to Seattle for nothing. Figured you'd be interested in getting some value back. I know I would


    You don’t want to take something back just for the sake of taking something back. Will it be a challenge to replace Voraceks production? Sure. But I would rather lose him and get only cap space in return than take back a contract and a player that we don’t think fits the team and the direction they want to go. 8+ million in cap space is an extremely valuable asset in and of itself
    Jul 14 at 12:26
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    Drumman44
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    Quoting: GirouxCrew
    You don’t want to take something back just for the sake of taking something back. Will it be a challenge to replace Voraceks production? Sure. But I would rather lose him and get only cap space in return than take back a contract and a player that we don’t think fits the team and the direction they want to go. 8+ million in cap space is an extremely valuable asset in and of itself


    Okay then take draft picks and prospects?
    Jul 14 at 1:15
    #11
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    Quoting: DrumMan44
    Okay then take draft picks and prospects?


    Ok what do you propose is adequate value? Normally when Jake or JVR is mentioned in trade proposals it’s usually taking a contract back ( usually a bad one) or as a throw in as part of a bigger trade to make the dollars work.
    Nonetheless, I would most definitely take back picks and prospects for Jake. I just don’t know enough about your prospects to have a preference other than the one guy I mentioned
     
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