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Thread: Sell Off
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>I made the Ottawa side of this trade here - - Ottawa looks seriously good with Laughton. He is a middle 6 guy but he is exactly the type of guy they need. I like it for both teams.

I doubt Keller is available. Konecny at 2.75m cap for 2 years would be a lot. Carolina has virtually no high end prospects, I get that, but they currently have the best d core (maybe ever constructed? Am I crazy in saying that?). I think this deal makes a lot of sense for both teams. Carolina needs to go all in. They are extremely good.

UPL has no value in this trade in my mind. it was more goalie in vs goalie out. And fair. I can see Buffalo rejecting this trade. They have the best goalie prospect in the world in Levi, so I can see why they don't do this. Hart for 2 years until Levi is 100% ready could be a good play though.</div></div>

I don't think the retained salary on TK makes much a of a difference. Teams would rather send money out versus getting a salary retained. Carolina has a very strong cap sheet and the marginal benefit of an additional 2-2.5M isn't worth the additional cost of getting him down there. Carolina can still go all in without having to completely mortgage their future for someone who'd probably be 4th best forward last year.

Ottawa isn't going to pay the price of acquiring high end talent for someone they already have. Joseph and Laughton are pretty much the same player, minus some intangibles, which even then is pretty subjective valuation.
Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 9:02 p.m.
Thread: Sell Off
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Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 10:10 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>No they wouldn’t. Why would you lock up 2 retention slots for 2 years and ur other one on Hayes for 3 years? That’s terrible management. They want 2 two 1sts and a good prospect for TK and Laughton is worth a 1st and 2nd so any trade for the two needs to involve 3 1st round picks or equivalents a 2nd and a good prospect. That doesn’t even include $4M worth of retention for 2 seasons which is probably worth another 2nd in itself. So you need 2 1sts, 2 2nds, and a really good prospect. This trade has a 1st in 3 years, a really good prospect, a late 2nd, a decent prospect, and an average prospect. This doesn’t even come close.</div></div>

The retention slots are lost opportunity cost but they also seldom return any draft capital that has a remote chance of ever becoming Byfield, Minten, or Cowan. If the Flyers are the 3rd team retaining, they maybe get a 4th or 5th for their trouble. They don't have any high caliber players that are expiring in the next couple of years (Atkinson, Hathaway, Walker) that they'd need to be the team to retain on them. At worst, they get a 6th round pick instead of a 5th.

Laughton isn't worth a 1st and a 2nd at this point. After this year, the cap is going to rise and team's aren't going to fork over a 1st and 2nd for a 30 year old with only 2 years left the contract. Guys like Hagel, Coleman, Goodrow, etc. all had team control or were locked in at a dirt cheap rate for a very specific team that needed maximum cap flexibility. Laughton is worth whatever someone WILL pay, not what someone WOULD have paid. He's a solid middle six player, but they missed the market on him when guys like Reilly Smith and Tyler Toffoli go for mid round picks.

TK falls into a weird category. He's not a franchise cornerstone player but he's not an older, solid top/middle six player. DeBrincat just went for a 1st, 4th, and depth prospect. He's not a gamebreaker and won't get a prospect anywhere close to Byfield in a return trade. Cowan and Minten are decent enough prospects that even if they get swapped for draft picks, you aren't getting any value added.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 8:54 p.m.