Mar. 8, 2017
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Who's mortgaging their future? Bubble teams or border line contenders? Most of them still have some pretty good prospects coming up. What about Dallas? What do you think they'll pay to add a 50% Nylander at the deadline? That's without even really thinking!
The reason you can't see this is because you don't want to. You, for whatever, reason (my guess is some dislike towards Nylander or The leafs) so you make up reasons it doesn't make sense and just refuse to see anything beyond a no. Get passed that and there is a chance for rational conversation</div></div>
Contending teams won't pay to add 50% RS to a rental player. All the teams are against the cap so they'll need RS to even make it work. An extra 50%, sure I could see teams footing the bill for that. Dallas would be good to add but they'll want to keep Bourque, Stankoven, and Wyatt, so who's the forward prospect going back in that deal? Martino, a solid bottom-six upside player, if you're lucky?
I don't have any ill-will against Nylander or Toronto, just observing as a Flyers fan. Unless they have a deal in place to flip Nylander again immediately, I'd rather be on the safe side and keep a near 30-goal scorer and the de facto captain versus a player who could very well walk if there is no deal in place.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>No they wouldn’t. Why would you lock up 2 retention slots for 2 years and ur other one on Hayes for 3 years? That’s terrible management. They want 2 two 1sts and a good prospect for TK and Laughton is worth a 1st and 2nd so any trade for the two needs to involve 3 1st round picks or equivalents a 2nd and a good prospect. That doesn’t even include $4M worth of retention for 2 seasons which is probably worth another 2nd in itself. So you need 2 1sts, 2 2nds, and a really good prospect. This trade has a 1st in 3 years, a really good prospect, a late 2nd, a decent prospect, and an average prospect. This doesn’t even come close.</div></div>
The retention slots are lost opportunity cost but they also seldom return any draft capital that has a remote chance of ever becoming Byfield, Minten, or Cowan. If the Flyers are the 3rd team retaining, they maybe get a 4th or 5th for their trouble. They don't have any high caliber players that are expiring in the next couple of years (Atkinson, Hathaway, Walker) that they'd need to be the team to retain on them. At worst, they get a 6th round pick instead of a 5th.
Laughton isn't worth a 1st and a 2nd at this point. After this year, the cap is going to rise and team's aren't going to fork over a 1st and 2nd for a 30 year old with only 2 years left the contract. Guys like Hagel, Coleman, Goodrow, etc. all had team control or were locked in at a dirt cheap rate for a very specific team that needed maximum cap flexibility. Laughton is worth whatever someone WILL pay, not what someone WOULD have paid. He's a solid middle six player, but they missed the market on him when guys like Reilly Smith and Tyler Toffoli go for mid round picks.
TK falls into a weird category. He's not a franchise cornerstone player but he's not an older, solid top/middle six player. DeBrincat just went for a 1st, 4th, and depth prospect. He's not a gamebreaker and won't get a prospect anywhere close to Byfield in a return trade. Cowan and Minten are decent enough prospects that even if they get swapped for draft picks, you aren't getting any value added.